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Last update: June 4, 2012

 

 

Preliminary minutes of INCITS/L2 meeting #228

May 7-11, 2012, Sunnyvale

 

 

1. Opening remarks and introductions

Craig Cummings, Chair, convened the meeting on May 7, 2012, at 10:40 am. He introduced himself as Chair.

1.1 Meeting Guidelines

The Chair stated that the meeting was operating under INCITS procedures, and called special attention to the ANSI patent policies (showing slides 1-3 of http://www.incits.org/pat_slides.pdf) and the INCITS antitrust policies (http://www.incits.org/inatrust.htm). The Chair noted that the INCITS Antitrust Guidelines applied to this committee meeting, and that it was the responsibility of all attendees, and not just the Officers, to ensure that the Guidelines are followed, and to terminate discussions if they are not.

1.2 Meeting Documents

An electronic version of the agenda and supporting documents were accessible via the ICMS Documents page. ICMS username and password are required for access. The agenda and meeting documents were posted in the required time frame.

2. Attendance and membership

2.1 Officers

No change in officers.

2.2 Gaining and losing voting membership

Information on how membership is gained, maintained, and lost in any INCITS Technical Committee or Task Group may be found at http://www.incits.org/rd2/INCITS_RD2.pdf. An overview of these requirements was introduced by the chair and was distributed to all attendees in the electronically distributed meeting documents.

2.3 Changes in representation since last meeting

Steven Loomis replaced V.S. Umamaheswaran as IBM's primary representative.

2.4 New voting membership

No new voting members.

2.5 New advisory members

No new advisory members.

2.6 Membership for this meeting

Based on the above information, the total voting membership is 10. The complete list of members (both voting and advisory), as well as the attendance to this meeting is:

Members Attendance
Organization Class Representative May 7 May 8 May 9 May 10 May 11
Adobe Systems, Inc Voting Eric Muller, primary x x x x x
Ken Lunde, alternate       x
John O'Conner, alternate          
Apple Voting Peter Edberg, primary   x x x x
John Jenkins, alternate         x
Deborah Goldsmith, alternate          
Lee Collins, alternate          
Yasuo Kida, alternate       x  
Google Voting Mark Davis, primary x x x   x
Markus Scherer, alternate   x      
Katsuhiko Momoi, alternate          
Roozbeh Pournader, alternate   x x x x
IBM Corporation Voting Steve Loomis, primary x x x x x
V.S. Umamaheswaran, alternate
Lisa Moore, alternate x x x x x
Microsoft Corporation Voting Peter Constable, primary x x x x x
Murray Sargent, alternate   x x x x
Laurentiu Iancu, alternate   x x x x
Rearden Commerce, Inc Voting Tex Texin, primary     x x x
Craig Cummings, alternate x x x x x
Sybase, an SAP Company Voting Ken Whistler, primary x x x x x
Ian MacLeod, alternate          
Unicode, Inc Voting Rick McGowan, primary x x x x x
Mike Ksar, alternate     x    
Richard Cook, alternate          
Michel Suignard, alternate   x x x x
University of California at Berkeley Voting Deborah Anderson, primary x x x x x
Yahoo!, Inc Voting Linus Tanaka, primary x x x x x
Federal Communications Commission Liaison Donald Draper-Campbell          
INCITS/PL22.4 Liaison Ann Bennett          
Library of Congress Liaison Randall K. Barry          
Sally McCallum          

3. Approval of the Agenda

The Chair presented the agenda and made a call for any new agenda items. It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded Rick McGowan that the agenda be approved. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

4. Approval of meeting minutes from L2 #227

The minutes of meeting L2 #227, February 6-10, 2012, Sunnyvale, document L2-2012-00005, were reviewed. No issues were raised. It was moved by Peter Constable and seconded by Steven Loomis to accept those minutes. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

5. Reports and liaisons

The Chair summarized highlights from the INCITS Annual Officer's Symposium on April 23-24.

6. Ballots

6.1 New ballots

Doc# Subject Action Item #
Action Item 41
(multiple docs; scroll down on Action Item page)

Recommendation to INCITS EB for USNB vote in response to ISO/IEC 10646:2012/DAM 1, Information technology - Universal Coded Character Set (UCS) AMENDMENT 1: Linear A, Palmyrene, Manichaean, Khojki, Khudawadi, Bassa Vah, Duployan, and other characters

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Lisa Moore to recommend that INCITS EB to vote to approve with comments in L2-2012-00007.

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

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Action Item 39
(multiple docs; scroll down on Action Item page)

Recommendation to INCITS EB for USNB vote in response to ISO/IEC 14651:2011/DAM 1, Information technology - International string ordering and comparison - Method for comparing character strings and description of the common template tailorable ordering AMENDMENT 1

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Rick McGowan to recommend that INCITS EB vote to approve.

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

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Recommendation to the INCITS EB for review in response to JTC 1 N 11050, Proposed Modifications to SC 2 Programme of Work
Approval of the Project Subdivision Proposal for ISO/IEC 10646:2012 PDAM2

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Roozbeh Pournader to recommend that INCITS EB approve the project subdivision.

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

42
SC 2 N4228
(Large download)

Position for USNB vote in response to SC 2 N4228, ISO/IEC 10646:2012/pDAmd.2, Information technology — Universal Coded Character Set (UCS) — AMENDMENT 2: Caucasian Albanian, Psalter Pahlavi, Old Hungarian, Mahajani, Grantha, Modi, Pahawh Hmong, Mende, and other characters

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Deborah Anderson to disapprove with comments in L2-2012-00008.

If comments te.1, te.3, and te.4. are accommodated, the U.S. will change its vote to "Yes".

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

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Recommendation to INCITS EB regarding adoption of ISO/IEC 10646:2011 as an American National Standard

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Peter Edberg to recommend the adoption of ISO/IEC 10646:2011 as an American National Standard.

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

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Recommendation to INCITS EB regarding adoption of ISO/IEC 14651:2011, Information technology -- International string ordering and comparison -- Method for comparing character strings and description of the common template tailorable ordering, as an American National Standard

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Steven Loomis to recommend adoption of ISO/IEC 14651:2011 as an American National Standard.

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

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L2-2012-SC35-00007

Administrative Item: Call for SC 35 membership in the Joint Advisory Committee of ISO/IEC 15897

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Rick McGowan to nominate Steven Loomis as USNB representative to the Joint Advisory Committee of ISO/IEC 15897.

The motion passed 9:0:0:1.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: Microsoft

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6.2 U.S. Contributions to ISO

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Ken Whistler to send the following documents as US contributions to SC2/WG2:

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

6.3 Other ballots

Subject Action Item #

It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Craig Cummings to record that L2 doesn't have the expertise in this area to comment on the following and recommends abstention.

  • L2-2012-SC35-00005, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 1: Framework and general guidance
  • L2-2012-SC35-00006, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 4: Management of spoken command registration

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

43,44

7. International meetings

7.1 Future meetings

Subject Action Item #

Delegation to SC 35/WG 5 #27

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Ken Whistler to delegate Steven Loomis to the SC 35/WG 5 meeting in Montréal, Canada.

The motion passed 9:0:0:1.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: Microsoft

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8. Upcoming meetings

9. Action Items

Action items are recorded in the Action Items section of ICMS.

10. Adjournment

It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Eric Muller to adjourn the meeting on May 10, 2012, at 4:00 pm. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.