I sense a headache coming on soon....
From: "Michael Jansson" <mjan@em2-solutions.com>
> You might be OK if you play by the rules. Then again, you might
> not ;-)
Kind of endearing, we all love our own technologies. Sometimes you do go a
bit too far, though. I think your products are pretty awesome, enough so
that you can allow other products their right to be as good as they are. :-)
> A few details; You can not use neither Arial Unicode MS nor Code
> 2000 to show Indic text with Uniscribe on Windows, as Uniscribe
> works with OpenType Layout fonts (fonts containing more than just
> the glyphs to support a language, i.e. glyph shaping and positioning
> information). Other shaping engines may be able to use these fonts
> though. The version of the fonts and Uniscribe would affect this
> behavior as well.
Yes, good that you mention this -- especially since the version of Arial
Unicode MS on my machine has the following OpenType layout tables:
arab
deva
gujr
guru
hani
kana
knda
taml
Whilst Code 2000 does even better with:
arab
beng
deva
gujr
guru
khmr
lao
katn
taml
telu
I guess they have decided these would be nice to have?
> Also, there is nothing wrong with neither Latha nor Mangal,
Actually there is -- you are not allowed to redistribute them. This would
make putting them on a Win9x machine a violation of the license agreement.
Even if I go long with the Bard's opinion about the Law, even he would not
claim that violation of it was a good thing in and of itself? ;-)
> nor are these the only fonts that can be used to show Indic
> languages on Windows.
Obviously I do not think this, since I gave two other examples off of the
top of my head that meet the condition you gave (Latin chars in the font?).
> Win9x simply depends on Code Page information in fonts for
> various legacy reasons, and are as such not equipped to handle
> "pure" Unicode fonts (this is at least my understand of this issue).
Good thing I mentioned files that pass this test. Note that Office is
perfectly happy to install Arial Unicode MS on a Win9x machine.
> If you want to use Indic Unicode fonts with Uniscribe on Win9x,
> then you better make sure that you build the fonts for Win9x
> yourself.
I sense another "no browser supports Unicode" thread coming on, and I feel
ill. Please do not do this. All you need to do is make sure you have the
most recent version of the font that contains the info you want. Being a
font expert is a weonderful thing if you are one, but if you are not yyou do
not have to consider hari kari or anything. :-)
> Then again, even that may not work... ;-)
Well, I suppose they can always turn to Fairy, right? <g,d&r>
MichKa
Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/
>
>
>
> Regards,
> - Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:michka@trigeminal.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:11 PM
> > To: Michael Jansson
> > Cc: Unicode List
> > Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
> >
> >
> > Since you are not allowed to redistribute Latha, Mangal, et.
> > al., this is
> > really not going to be too much of a hardship for anyone
> > playing by the
> > rules, is it? :-)
> >
> > They can always legally obtain Arial Unicode MS or Code 2000
> > and then have
> > support via fonts that definitely have such ranges represented....
> >
> >
> > MichKa
> >
> > Michael Kaplan
> > Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Jansson" <mjan@em2-solutions.com>
> > To: <unicode@unicode.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
> >
> >
> > > > James Kass wrote:
> > > > The best way to render a Devanagari page is with Unicode encoding
> > > > and smart font technology. With an up-to-date version of the
> > > > Uniscribe software installed, Devanagari can be properly displayed
> > > > even on Win 9x, as long as the browser uses the Uniscribe engine.
> > >
> > > You need to be careful when using Uniscribe on Win9x.
> > Installing certain
> > > Indic fonts and Uniscribe on unsupported platforms (Win9x) will
> > > unfortunately corrupt these systems. The problem is that Win9x will
> > > misbehave when seeing fonts without code page support, such
> > as Indic fonts
> > > with no Latin characters.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > - Michael
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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