From: Allen Haaheim (haaheima@interchange.ubc.ca)
Date: Sun Mar 23 2003 - 21:22:53 EST
Thanks for the enightening me regarding the CHANT website fonts. Now if ICS1
(and ICS2 and ICS6) would work, I could count this as a major victory.
My "correct" characters were simply what I know to be the right ones by
looking at hard copies and the only place I've seen them on my computer
screen, in the Unicode CJK Extensions. I realize now the blanks actually
refer to what is the same character by sight, but in the ICS1 font.
Re Eric's comments on the fonts: for anyone interested in sinology in
general, it is really a superior site all-around, the texts are collated
against other major recensions and character variants duly noted, and I hope
it will continue to enlarge as they add texts to it.
Allen Haaheim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rasmussen" <kerasmus@mac.com>
To: <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: CJK question
> > From: "Allen Haaheim"
> > ... it seems that "[s]ince GB18030 is fully ISO 10646 compatible, it
> > readily supports CJK Extension B and other languages." I don't have
> > the GB18030 font or Extension B Charset in my machine. Can I load CJK
> > Extensions A and B without switching to XP? I would prefer to use
> > Win2000, or the ME which I am running now, but if necessary I can use
> > XP.
>
> In terms of CJK glyphs, the GB 18030 character set only includes the
> CJK Ideographs and CJK Ideographs Extension A blocks. In terms of
> encodings, it supports the Supplementary Ideographic Plane (and thus
> CJK Ideographs Extension B), but no SIP characters are currently
> defined in GB 18030. So the "SimSun 18030" font that comes with the GB
> 18030 support package is not a misnomer: it does contain the complete
> character set.
>
> Windows 2000 will do, but you must have Office XP. I have Windows 2000
> with Office XP with the 2002 Proofing Tools installed. The extended
> font is called "SimSun (Founder Extended)" [filename: SURSONG.TTF] and
> contains around 64,000 CJK Ideographs: most of Extension B, but not
> all. I have access to this entire font via the Simplified Chinese
> "Enhanced Unicode IME" which has already been mentioned, via the UTF-16
> code (not the scalar value).
>
> > From: "Allen Haaheim"
> > I tried what you suggested with unipad, but for some reason it went to
> > a location on a PUA character map, rather than CJK Unified Ideographs
> > Extension B, where they are in fact located.
>
> It goes to a PUA location because that is where that character is
> located in the appropriate CHANT font. The two examples you gave go to
> E596 and E58E, as has been noted. The correct characters are in the
> "ICS1" font. I would be curious to know how many of the glyphs in ICS1
> are now in Unicode, and which are not. ICS3 has a very nicely and
> accurately rendered set of oracle-bone and early bronze-inscription
> characters, by the way.
>
> Regards, Eric Rasmussen
>
>
>
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