Re: U+00D0, U+01b7 -- variants or distinct chars?

From: Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin (
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 17:11:56 EST

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    On 2003.03.18, 22:04, <> wrote:

    > Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote on 03/18/2003 09:46:30 AM:
    > > > U+00D0: The glyph that appears in the code charts for U+00D0 is
    > > > shown in LtnCapEth_DStrk.gif. Now, the African Reference Alphabet
    > > > document that was produced at a conference in Niamey in 1978
    > > > proposed a small letter that looks like U+00F0 LATIN SMALL LETTER
    > > > ETH, but the capital counterpart is like the glyph shown in
    > > > LtnCapEthLrgSqLC.gif. This is quite different in appearance from
    > > > the representative glyph for U+00D0. Should this be considered a
    > > > glyph variant of U+00D0, or should it be considered a distinct
    > > > character?
    > >
    > > I guess it is yes a glyph variant but rather for U+0189.
    > Eh? No, the only thing it could be a glyph variant of is U+00D0. What
    > would make you think to make it a variant of 0189?

    Well, considering the context (Niamey Conference etc.), I supposed that
    this glyph is intended for Ewe (or any other african languages using
    U+0189), and not for Faroese, Icelandic etc (which use U+00D0) nor
    Vietnamese, Croatian, Lappish etc (which use U+00D0). (I apparently
    overlooked your sentence «proposed a small letter that looks like U+00F0
    LATIN SMALL LETTER ETH» -- silly me.)

    Naturally, the glyph prescribed in the Unicode charts for U+0189 is
    identical to those of U+00D0 and U+0110, a stroked "D" (I just consulted
    U0000.pdf, U0100.pdf and U0180.pdf, downloaded from the unicode web site
    in june 2002 -- hopefully they're current), but, as said, differencing
    in the same language/alphabet the LC forms U+0256 and U+0111 (or U+00F0
    ?) might very well have been the motive to create this glyph.

    (Some time later.) But... OTOH, I understand what you mean. The *shape*
    of the glyph suggests that it is intended to be an upper case form of
    eth, indeed U+00D0.

    I see. That would be much more complicated to get somewhere, wouldn't
    it? Not directly a Unicode issue, but worth some consideration. BTW --
    how old is the "stroked D" glyph? IIRC, U+00F0 was initially an erse,
    uncial shape letter, with no upper case form...

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