Re: Proposed Successor to RFC 3066 (language tags)

From: Philippe Verdy (verdy_p@wanadoo.fr)
Date: Wed Nov 19 2003 - 18:51:03 EST

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    I note that the language tags proposal includes the following EBNF
    productions for extensions that may be padded after the language code,
    script code, region code, variant code:

    extensions = "-x" 1* ("-" key "=" value)
    key = ALPHA *alphanum
    value = 1* utf8uri
    alphanum = (ALPHA / DIGIT)
    utf8uri = (ALPHA / DIGIT / 1*4 ("%" 2 HEXDIG))

    Under this new scheme, the following language tag may be valid:
    "sr-Latn-SP-2003-x-href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eiana%2Eorg%2F-version=1%2E0"
    which here would mean: {
        language="sr"; // Serbian
        script="Latn"; // Latin
        region="SP"; // Serbia-Montenegro
        variant="2003";
        extensions="-x"; {
            href="http://www.iana.org/"
            version="1.0"
        }
    }

    However the problem with that scheme is its new use of characters "%" and
    "=". There are a lot of applications that where not expecting something else
    in this field than just alphanum and "-" or "_" or ".", so that the language
    tag could safely be used without specific escaping within URIs (for example
    in HTTP GET URLs) or as options of a MIME type (I take a sample here, which
    may not correspond to an existing option of the "text/plain" MIME type):

    Content-Encoding: text/plain; charset=UTF-8;
    lang=sr-Latn-SP-2003-x-href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eiana%2Eorg%2F-version=1%2E0

    This may break the compatiblity of some parsers if such "extended language
    tags" are found there, as there are two "=" signs within the value of the
    "lang=" option.

    For GET URLs, these extra "%" and "=" will need to be URL-encoded to get
    through correctly, as the following would become possible and prone to
    generate form data parsing errors:

    http://www.anysite.domain/process-form.cgi?lang=sr-Latn-SP-2003-x-href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eiana%2Eorg%2F-version=1%2E0

    I think it's quite strange that these extensions have not used the existing
    restricted encoding set to encode them, instead on relying on "%" and "=".
    Why not using "_" instead of "=" and "." instead of "%", like this:
    "sr-Latn-SP-2003-x-href_http.3A.2F.2Fwww.2Eiana.2Eorg.2F-version_1.2E0"
    (same meaning as the first example above).

    But at least this draft offers a good starting point to indicate locales
    more precisely.

    I fully support the new reference to the ISO-15924 standard for the script
    code, and for documenting the legal values of variant codes (either a year
    with possible era, or a registered tag), as well as clearly indicating that
    languages codes should be the shortest ISO-639 codes (is it true for a few
    legacy languages which previously were coded with 3 letters and upgraded to
    2-letter codes, until there was a policy not to do it anymore in the
    future?)

    Where does it affect Unicode, I don't know, except in its possible normative
    data tables which may contain future language code conditions, or in
    Language tags inserted in the Unicode encoded texts. Does Unicode need these
    extensions?



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