From: Michael Everson (everson@evertype.com)
Date: Mon Dec 01 2003 - 06:24:42 EST
At 22:12 -0800 2003-11-30, Peter Constable wrote:
>From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org on behalf of Michael Everson
>
>>>What I haven't seen is clear evidence that the wa-phallaa is
>>>considered to be related to nominal BA and not a distinct character
>>>falling after LA.
>>
>>WA has been added as a new independent letter, without a
>>decomposition to O+BA, although its graphic appearance and simple
>>phonetics shows us that it is an innovation based on that
>>combination.
>
>No, the graphic appearance and phonetics reassure is this is a
>plausible hypothesis; they don't show us this must be how it is.
Your suggestion that NYA could be involved is less plausible.
> > If DBA = [dwa] surely OBA = [owa] > [wa]
>
>But there's that underlying assumption which is what I have been
>questioning: is the written representation of /dwa/ really D.BA, or
>should it be considered D.WA?
It is traditionally, yes.
>I still haven't seen clear evidence; only an assertion of the former
>based on a hypothesis that, granted, is certainly plausible.
I cited examples already:
k. + ba (wa) = kwa
j. + ba (va) = jva
dh. + ba (wa) = dhwa
m. + ba = mba
r. + ba = rba
sh. + ba = shba
>But the more important question is how users and implementers,
>particularly those in India, will expect these conjuncts to be
>encoded, and that question remains. If I implement one thing and
>others another, we've got a problem.
I think we should avoid revisionist encodings, which will make it
impossible to deal with older data.
>I was hoping there might be some Indian -- Oriyan -- implementers or
>users lurking that might want to comment. If not, then there's not
>much more to say on this topic here. I'll try elsewhere;
I did order dictionaries so that I can help you.
>in the meantime, I've got another similar question coming (encode
>based on sound or based on shapes?) involving some other conjuncts.
>I just need to get something scanned first.
:-)
-- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
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