From: A. Vine (andrea.vine@Sun.COM)
Date: Fri Nov 12 2004 - 18:36:42 CST
Theodore H. Smith wrote:
> I take your point that you are well aware of this. However some of your
> users are not so aware, having read your information on "Modified UTF-8"
> and thinking "hey, well is Sun do it, then it must be OK for me to do it
Fair enough, it would be more helpful if you said that initially.
> This thread, was inspired by exactly that. Someone point me to this
> page, using it as "proof" that modified UTF-8 is an acceptable thing to do.
> While you are well aware, the users aren't. I think it would be a good
> idea to add a small note saying that this feature is going to be changed
> in future versions of Java, or perhaps Deprecated, due to its
> incompatibility. Just a small note, on that page and similar pages, with
> the phrase "This will be deprecated in the future because it currently
> contradicts the standard behaviour"... that would make a *huge* difference.
Fine. Java has a way of submitting requests, FYI:
I will relay your request to the Java team, but it will get more
attention if you submit a request. It will get even more attention if
people vote for that request to be implemented.
> That aside.
> I'm just curious about the \0 thing. What problems would having a \0 in
> UTF-8 present, that are not presented by having \0 in ASCII? I can't see
> any advantage there.
Beats me, I wasn't there. None of the Java folks I know were there either.
> The only advantage I can imagine, would be using UTF-8 for storing \0 in
> places that previously weren't possible. To me, that sounds like a
> strange way to add a feature.
Maybe that's it. Maybe there was some old platform compatibility issue
someone somewhere was thinking of.
> On 12 Nov 2004, at 23:58, A. Vine wrote:
>> FYI, we are well aware of this shortcoming (modified UTF-8), and with
>> each release try to mitigate it even further. The problem is that it
>> is so deep in the code (note that it is since Java 1.0) that it is not
>> easy to eliminate without breaking a lot of existing stuff, something
>> that the Java team strive to avoid.
>> Theodore H. Smith wrote:
>>> If only people could sue for suggesting bad coding practices ;o)
>>> Theodore H. Smith - Software Developer.
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