From: Don Osborn (dzo@bisharat.net)
Date: Wed Aug 09 2006 - 07:33:02 CDT
Hmmm - something like "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is."
? (Sorry, couldn't resist ...)
What about a "planes of existence" approach? Are there categories of
written/printed entities that could be more or less happily assigned to the
supplementary ideographic plane SIP (if I understand its purpose correctly)
rather than the BMP?
----- Original Message -----
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Andrew West wrote:
>
>> I guess that most people know that I have always been a strong
>> advocate of only encoding characters for which there is tangible
>> evidence for their existence and need to be encoded.
>
> The key question here is what existence means: does it mean existence as a
> widely recognized symbol with some established shape, or does it _also_
> require existing usage in texts? (For some definition of "text", of
> course. But surely symbols that are _only_ used as standalone graphic
> symbols lack use in texts.)
>
...
----- Original Message -----
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> From: "Michael Everson" <everson@evertype.com>
>> So which is it? The noble heart-shaped exclamation point that no one no
>> one no one uses? Or the accursed do-not-litter man, ubiquitous but
>> shunned by the UTC?
>
> This time, I admit that I strongly support this point of view. There are
> tons of symbols seen everyday on lots of products that would merit
> encoding, notably those marking the compliance with a industry or national
> standard.
>
> So where are the symbols for:
> * Do not dispose in dustbin
> * DC plug/jack polarity
> * USB plug
> * indicator symbols for WiFi or BlueTooth activation (button or LED)
> * Do not clean with chlore, dry cleaning
> * Temperature for pressing clothes
> * Do not drink, do not eat
> * Various danger warning signs (electric shock, corrosive, hot
> temperature, laser beam, high power wave emission, abrasive, explosive,
> easily inflammable, can cut fingers or feet, toxic gas...)
> * Do not expose to direct sun light, water/moisture, dust
> * Do not open, content sealed
> * Keep frozen/cool/warm (a thermomether, beside which we would write
> separately the extremum temperatures)
> * Battery meters (fully charged, high, half charge, low, nearly empty, as
> found on most mobile phone displays)
> * Triangular sound volume gauge symbols (also used as antenna reception
> level)
> * Antenna symbol
> * All those standard symbols that you find below any notebook or on its
> electric adaptor, and on many electrical devices, including in their
> documentation (I don't mean here the logos of standard organisations,
> which may be severely restricted or copyrighted, and requiring a specific
> agreement or that could be simply forbidden for reproduction, but possibly
> FCC or CE conformance symbols which are open for use without prior
> agreement provided that its use is honnest as this is a contract signature
> from the manufacturer certifying that conformance has been tested and is
> waranteed to consumers and legit to import, sell or use in the intended
> market)
> ...
>
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