From: Lokesh Joshi (lokeshjoshi@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2007 - 13:25:26 CST
Errata: and that AV1 does not compose with AV3. -> and that AD1 does not
compose with AV3.
On 2/16/07, Lokesh Joshi <lokeshjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> this is what i wanted to ask and verify earlier also:
>
> #5589: Thai layout broken for <0E25, 0E37, 0E4C>?
> ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------
>
> Reporter: markus | Owner: eric
> Type: defect | Status: new
> Priority: major | Milestone: UNSCH
> Component: layout | Version:
> Resolution: | Keywords:
> Xref: | Java:
> Os: | Project: ICU4C
> Weeks: | Revw:
>
> ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------
> Comment (by eric):
>
> According to http://www.nectec.or.th/it-standards/keyboard_layout/thai-
> key.htm and http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/wtt2/char-
> class.pdf
> , the ICU implementation is correct. They say that U+0E37 has
> class AV3 and that U+0E4C has class AD1, and that AV1 does not compose
> with AV3.
>
> I think this makes sense, i also coded according to the char-class.pdf.
> Thanx
> Lokesh
>
> On 2/11/07, vunzndi@vfemail.net <vunzndi@vfemail.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My apologies
> > below for" Quite the reverse is true" -- read "Quite the reverse is also
> > true"
> >
> >
> > Quoting vunzndi@vfemail.net:
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, inpratice one canuse the script of any language to write another
> > > language it is just a question of how big an adaption. Quite the
> > > reverse is true a writing system is designed not to use certain
> > > letters/ideogrammes so as to be different but at the same time is
> > > related in some way. Having one's own writing system is often seen as
> > > a matter of pride for many nations/ethnic-groups. I can think of few
> > > cases where the primary reason for choosing a writing system was
> > > praticality.
> > >
> > > Quoting Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>:
> > >
> > >> Actually, I think actual adaptation of a script for use in other
> > >> languages has less to do with its adaptability and more to do with
> > >> things like prestige or regional importance by virtue of its use
> > >> for some major language(s). E.g. Arabic script wasn't adopted for
> > >> writing Turkish because the script was particularly adaptable for
> > >> that language.
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org
> > >> [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of John Hudson
> > >> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:06 AM
> > >> To: Eric Muller
> > >> Cc: Lokesh Joshi; Richard Wordingham; unicode@unicode.org
> > >> Subject: Re: Query for Validity of Thai Sequence
> > >>
> > >> Eric Muller wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> Successful writing systems tend to get adapted for multiple
> > languages,
> > >>
> > >>> The term "successful writing systems" makes me nervous, especially
> > with
> > >>> the "tend to get adapted" part. Unless you define "successful" by
> > "get
> > >>> adapted" (in which case you have a tautology), the value judgment is
> > at
> > >>> best dubious. And anyway, your argument works equally well without
> > >>> "Successful", so why go there?
> > >>
> > >> That's an entirely fair comment. I was writing quickly, but I
> > >> suppose I was thinking of
> > >> 'successful' in terms of demonstrated adaptability. Thinking of a
> > >> script like Thai: this
> > >> is a writing system that has already been adapted to a number of
> > >> minority languages, ergo
> > >> 'successful' in this sense, and it is reasonable to think that it
> > >> might be adapted to
> > >> others. In any case, the basic point is that one shouldn't make
> > >> assumptions about how
> > >> characters will be used in such adaptations.
> > >>
> > >> JH
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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