RE: Fish (was Re: Marks)

From: Philippe Verdy (verdy_p@wanadoo.fr)
Date: Tue Oct 02 2007 - 12:47:29 CST

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    Asmus Freytag wrote:
    > It is the latter type of usage that brings this into the pool of symbols
    > that are eligible to be evaluated for encoding. Unfortunately, it's
    > unlikely that even you will find many online examples of such use, due
    > to the lack of character encoding - all you can expect to find online is
    > instances where this has been turned into a picture (or logo).

    You may find them online, but using non-encoded forms:
    * may be using specific embedded fonts referencing some private usage
    encoding relative to that specific font.
    * in HTML pages where they could be currently substituted every as images
    (possibly with the help of CSS styles to avoid making complicated references
    to them through an image element with an attribute and an URI)
    * as embedded SVG objects within XML data (later referended with a <svg
    use="#ref"/> element.
    * in PDF documents (everything is a graphic object, including the rest of
    the text which is encoded in its rendered form as a set of graphic drawing
    primitives)
    * in scanned pages of publications

    All these uses will be difficult to find through standard search engines
    that don't know how they are represented (there's currently no good way to
    look for graphics in the web without the help of metadata for indexing
    them).

    May be a search for images whose description contains the "fish" word could
    help find some of these documents: we could first search for matching glyphs
    and then we can look for other documents which intend to embed them this
    way, if there's a searchable index of external references (Google may
    perform this type of searches, i.e. looking for documents that make external
    references to the URL of an image).



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