RE: Level of Unicode support required for various languages

From: Peter Constable (petercon@microsoft.com)
Date: Mon Oct 29 2007 - 17:49:59 CST

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    I guess I assumed that that was never intended to provide a substitute for encoding the characters needed for Zhuang text -- it would be a terrible way to represent Zhuang text, though I suppose you can argue (as you have done) that it's valid.

    Peter

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    > To: Peter Constable
    > Cc: Andrew West; Kenneth Whistler; tarmes@fr.imaje.com;
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    > Subject: RE: Level of Unicode support required for various languages
    >
    >
    > I am not sure of you main point here - I was refering to how the IDS
    > are rendered as in Unicode 5 page 430 where it says;-
    >
    > 'An implementation may render a valid Ideographic Description Sequence
    > either by rendering the individual characters separately or by parsing
    > the Ideographic Description Sequence and drawing the ideograph so
    > described. In the latter case, the Ideographic Description Sequence
    > should be treated as a ligature of the individual characters for
    > purposes of hit testing, cursor movement, and other user interface
    > operations.'
    >
    > To use IDS in running Zhuang text and "parse" is acceptable, and in a
    > text containing a large number of IDS sequences even desirable from
    > the point of view of human readbility.
    >
    >
    > Yours sincerely
    > John Knnightley
    >
    >
    >
    > Quoting Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>:
    >
    > > Ideographic Description Sequence characters are not meant for, and
    > > should not be used for, representing text elements in running text
    > > other than ideographic description sequences. In other words,
    > > descriptions of characters that would be used in simple sentences of
    > > Zhuang can be represented in Unicode, but simple sentences of
    > > Zhuang cannot.
    > >
    > >
    > > Peter
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
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    > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:06 PM
    > > To: Andrew West
    > > Cc: Kenneth Whistler; tarmes@fr.imaje.com; unicode@unicode.org
    > > Subject: Re: Level of Unicode support required for various languages
    > >
    > >
    > > Since it is difficult to answer the question does uniocde support
    > more
    > > than half of the 4000 languages of the world, and who knows how many
    > > dialects. The list of what is required grows the more one thinks
    > about
    > > it.
    > >
    > > For example talking about CJKV characters at present many characters
    > > can only be repesented by IDS, one therefore really needs IDS to
    > > character display to write even simple sentance in some languages
    > like
    > > Zhuang.
    > >
    > > While Europe has quite good coverage ( though not hungarian runes)
    > the
    > > coverage of asian and african scripts is sparse. Current scripts
    > under
    > > WG2 review include, but are by no means restricted to Javanese, Lisu,
    > > Miao, Nushu, and Tangut. Some scripts like Egyptians Heiroglyphics
    > > will need a higher protocol outside of the scope of uniocde to
    > display
    > > properly.
    > >
    > > John Knightley
    > >
    > > Quoting Andrew West <andrewcwest@gmail.com>:
    > >
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