Accumulated Feedback on PRI #519
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Date/Time: Sun Mar 09 00:42:55 CST 2025
ReportID: ID20250309004255
Name: Judith Chen
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: 519
The following entries in the Unikemet.txt file seem to contain the misspelling "classsifier": - U+13034 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+1366F kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13671 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13673 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13674 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13677 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13678 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13682 kEH_Func Classsifier king - U+13942 kEH_Func Classsifier (to bow, to attack) - U+13EEB kEH_Func Classsifier divinity - U+13EEC kEH_Func Classsifier divinity I recommend amending these lines to: - U+13034 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+1366F kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13671 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13673 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13674 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13677 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13678 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13682 kEH_Func Classifier king - U+13942 kEH_Func Classifier (to bow, to attack) - U+13EEB kEH_Func Classifier divinity - U+13EEC kEH_Func Classifier divinity That is all.
Date/Time: Sun Mar 09 14:45:45 CDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250309144545
Name: Will Lawver
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: 519
Section 3.6, Mirroring and Rotation, should be clarified. It appears to say that characters with kEH_NoMirror set to “Y” are not mirrored in RTL text, but I think it’s supposed to say instead that these characters are not mirrored using U+13440 EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH MIRROR HORIZONTALLY, as described in the core specification: “U+13440 should not be used if mirroring would change the meaning of the sign; the separately encoded character should be used instead. For example, the logogram U+130BB 𓂻 EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH D054 is used for ‘come,’ but U+130BD 𓂽 EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH D055 is a determinative for ‘going backwards,’ and that character should be used rather than mirroring.” For U+130BB to mean “come” and U+130BD to mean “going backwards,” their glyphs would have to be mirrored in RTL text. If the glyphs stayed the same, the same character would have opposite meanings depending on the text direction. Either way, the description of kEH_NoMirror should definitely mention U+13440.
Date/Time: Wed Apr 02 16:15:24 CDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250402161524
Name: John Wilcock
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: 519
I believe that there is an extra space between the | and HJ in the second line of the Syntax for [kEH_Unik]
(https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr57/tr57-4.html#kEH_Unik)
([A-IK-Z]|AA|NL|NU)\d{3}[A-Z]{0,2}
| HJ ([A-IK-Z]|AA)\d{3}[A-Z]{0,2}
Feedback above this line has already been reviewed during UTC #183 in April, 2025.
Date/Time: Tues May 13 08:31:17 PDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250513083117
Name: Michel Mariani
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 519
In Unikemet.txt, there are two duplicate kEH_UniK property values: U+1358D kEH_UniK A527 U+135DC kEH_UniK A527 The value for U+135DC is presumably the correct one, since it is related to: U+135DD kEH_UniK A527A so it is the value for U+1358D which should be updated... BTW, the fact that the kEH_Cat and kEH_UniK properties are supposedly expecting 'required' and 'unique' values could be explicitly mentioned in UAX #57 in their respective metadata tables...
Date/Time: Mon May 19 06:09:33 PDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250519060933
Name: Michel Mariani
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 519
https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr57/tr57-4.html - Incorrect syntax for kEH_AltSeq (an alternate sequence may contain variation selectors: FE00..FE0F): [0-9A-F]{5}(\s[0-9A-F]{5})* would be: [0-9A-F]{5}(\s[0-9A-F]{4,5})* https://www.unicode.org/Public/draft/ucd/Unikemet.txt # Unikemet-16.0.0.txt # Date: 2025-04-18 - kEH_UniK: duplicate value: U+13776 kEH_UniK C022P U+13784 kEH_UniK C022P - kEH_Desc: space issue: U+13353 kEH_Desc, U+139F9 kEH_Desc, U+13AFF kEH_Desc, U+13C5B kEH_Desc, U+13FE0 kEH_Desc : "turns(Z7)" -> "turns (Z7)" U+132B2 kEH_Desc : "legs( R3P)" -> "legs (R3P)" - kEH_Desc: sake of consistency: U+133F2 kEH_Desc : "1,5 turns" -> "one and a half turns" (cf. U+13353 kEH_Desc, etc.) U+13A93 kEH_Desc : "tail down" -> "tail downwards" (cf. U+130E2 kEH_Desc) - kEH_Desc: possible typos: U+13B0C kEH_Desc : "Two baboon" -> "Two baboons" U+13BF4 kEH_Desc : "A vertebrae" -> "A vertebra" U+13BF9 kEH_Desc : "with heat" -> "with meat" U+13683 kEH_Desc : "with a flagellum (S430 and the crook (S38)" -> "with a flagellum (S45) and a crook (S38)" or "with a flagellum (S45) and crook (S38)" ========================================
Date/Time: Mon May 19 07:45:41 PDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250519074541
Name: Michel Mariani
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 519
Issues in section "Hiéroglyphes égyptiens étendus A" of the latest French version of the code charts : - Duplicate subgroup name: R07. Étendard R09. Étendard - Duplicate subgroup numbering: U21. Outil de broyage U21. Catégorie U, divers
Date/Time: Fri May 23 16:01:28 PDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250523160128
Name: Michel Mariani
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 519
=================================== https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr57/tr57-4.html In the new beta version of Unikemet.txt, all previous occurrences of "Naja haja" have been changed to "Naja haje"; the example of description for U+13A6E in UAX#57 should be updated accordingly (2 occurrences)... ======================================== https://www.unicode.org/Public/draft/ucd/Unikemet.txt There are some unknown "source references" in the kEH_Desc property of the following characters: U+1306E: Unknown "S70" "God, seated, knees up, with covered legs and arms, with the head of a falcon, wearing a headdress consisting of two plumes with a sun disk (S63A/S70), holding a tie or strap, used with sandals (ankh-sign, S34), angling forward." U+13148: Unknown "P15" "A falcon (G5), on top of a moon sickle shaped boat, which rests upon a pedestal (P15)." U+131FB: Unknown "N63A" "The back half of a crescent moon (N63A), written over a star (N14)." U+1322E: Unknown "W17E" "A schematic representation of three sealed water pots in a rack, without horizontal line at the bottom, with the downward lines descending to the bottom (W17E), in front of a spear made into a standard, with a circle on either side of the spear tip, with a loop over the standard (Jsesh R15); on top of a standard used for carrying religious symbols (R12), written on top of a parcel of land with irrigation ditches (N24)." U+13244: Unknown "W17E" "A horned desert viper (Cerastes cerastes) (I9), written over a tree (M1), in front of a schematic representation of three sealed water pots in a rack, without horizontal line at the bottom, with the downward lines descending to the bottom (W17E); on top of a standard used for carrying religious symbols (R12), written on top of a parcel of land with irrigation ditches (N24)." U+1324C: Unknown "W17E" "A tree (M1), in front of a schematic representation of three sealed water pots in a rack, without horizontal line at the bottom, with the downward lines descending to the bottom (W17E); on top of a standard used for carrying religious symbols (R12), written on top of a parcel of land with irrigation ditches (N24)." U+13599: Unknown "T73B" "Man, standing, both arms forwards, holding a scimitar (khopesh), written vertically, blade curving forwards, with the head of a falcon with a sun-disk (N5) on top of it (T73B)." U+13622: Unknown "M15Avar" "Child, seated on nothing, forelegs spread, right arm extended forward, holding a clump with one papyrus stem and bud, with two buds bent down (M15Avar), at the stem, below the bud; left arm hanging beside the body." U+1372B: Unknown "S65" "Woman, seated, both knees up, with covered arms and legs, with long hair, wearing a headdress consisting of a sun disk in horns, with two plumes on top of the sun disk (S65) and a vulture headdress, holding a stem of papyrus with a bud (M131) or flower vertically." U+137B8: Unknown "S70" "God, seated, knees up, with covered legs and arms, with the head of a falcon, wearing a headdress consisting of two plumes with a sun disk (S63A/S70)." U+137B9: Unknown "S70" "God, seated, knees up, with covered legs and arms, with the head of a falcon, wearing a headdress consisting of two plumes with a sun disk (S63A/S70), holding a sceptre with a straight shaft, topped with the head of the Seth animal vertically." U+137D0: Unknown "S70" "God, standing, with the head of a falcon, with a headdress consisting of two plumes and a sun disk (S63A/S70) and an uraeus at the front on its head, right arm forward, hand at the height of the waist, holding a sceptre with a straight shaft, forked bottom and head of the Seth animal (S40) of the same size as the god, vertically, left arm hanging beside the body." U+137E7: Unknown "S53vara" "God, seated, both knees up, with covered legs and arms, with a long-curved beard, wearing a headdress consisting of a combination of the Atef crown and the red crown (S53vara?), holding a sceptre with a straight shaft, topped with the head of the Seth animal vertically." U+13888: Unknown "Y28" "Goddess, seated, knees up, with covered legs and arms, with a headdress of bovine horns with a sun disk (F102), holding a sistrum, with the top piece in the form of a shrine, with the human face on the handle having hair (Y28)" U+138EE: Unknown "T61" "Goddess, seated, knees up, with covered legs and arms, with two crossed arrows, fletching towards the back, on top of a standard resembling a half circle on top of a long and short stick (T61) on her head." U+139CF: Unknown "N8E" "A forearm with the hand holding the sun, with three beams of sunlight coming from it (N8E)." U+13A2F: Unknown "V12A" "Two harpoon-heads with two horizontal strokes on top and a single curl on top of the point (HG T19), on top of a forward bend feather (H27)/a wide tongue (F20A), or a wide band of string or fabric (V12A)." U+13AD2: Unknown "P11A" "A lioness, lying down, with a stick with a circular inset (P11A) on its back." U+13AF4: Unknown "F51B" "A hamadryas baboon (Papio hamadryas), seated, arms forward, holding a piece of flesh, point down, curving backwards (F51B)." U+13AF7: Unknown "V36K" "A hamadryas baboon (Papio hamadryas), seated, hands on knees, tail folded under the rear (E35), in front of a sheath or receptacle with V shaped indentation at the top, on top of a base, with a forward curved line coming from the indentation (V36K); on top of a basket (V30)." U+13B41: Unknown "Aa18A" "A cover of a quiver, with a vertical loop on top (Aa18A), in front of a bovid (bull), standing (E1), on top of a standard used for the carrying of religious symbols (R12)." U+13B64: Unknown "S78" "The head of a ram (Ovis longipes palaeo-aegyptiacus), with beard, with two feather-like plumes (S78) on top of the horns." U+13BCC: Unknown "T11A" "The skin of a cow, with the tail hanging straight down, about to be pierced by an arrow (T11A)." U+13BCD: Unknown "T11A" "The skin of a cow, with the tail hanging straight down, pierced by an arrow with rectangular fletching (T11A)." U+13C78: Unknown [ "S65", "S65A" ] "A falcon (G5), wearing a headdress consisting of a sun-disk between the horns of a bovid, with two plumes on top of the sun-disk (S65/S65A)." U+13E27: Unknown "Q3A" "A palm branch, stripped of leaves and notched with a sharp notch (M4B), on top of a stool made of reed matting, with internal detail (HGx Q3A)." U+13F0D: Unknown "S78" "The head of a man on a stick, wearing a double feather headdress (S78), with a band of string around its head, with the ties at the back, with arms coming from the head, right arm forwards, holding a crook (S38) vertically, left arm hanging beside the stick, holding a flagellum (S45) horizontally; on top of a standard used for carrying religious symbols (R12), written on top of a parcel of land with irrigation ditches (N24)." U+13F33: Unknown "N102" "A ripple of water (N35), written within an ova (N102), on top of a conical loaf of bread (X8)." U+13FBF: Unknown "P11A" "An open booth supported by a pole with a circular inset (P11A)." U+13FCB: Unknown "O175D" "A horizontal line, intersected in the middle by a coil of rope (V2), written within a booth, with the roof curving gradually after a sharp corner (O175D), on top of a wickerwork basket (V30)." U+14051: Unknown "N36C" "A boat/ship with a prow and stern resembling the handle of a sickle (U1), on top of ripple of water, written inside a canal (N36C), with a circle inside the boat/ship." U+1406B: Unknown "O20D" "A moon-sickle shaped boat with a higher stern than prow, with the head of an antelope (F81) on top of the stern, on top of a rectangle representing water, with a tall shrine with a round roof, with two vertical lines enclosing the top, on a base, without internal decoration (GID O20D), written inside the boat/ship." U+1406C: Unknown "O20D" "A moon-sickle shaped boat with a higher stern than prow, with the head of an antelope (F81) on top of the stern, with lines crossing the prow, on top of a sledge with two vertical internal strokes, with a tall shrine with a round roof, with two vertical lines enclosing the top, on a base, without internal decoration (GID O20D), written inside the boat/ship." U+14112: Unknown "N102" "Two arms, raised upwards, with the forearms and hands vertical, hand palms inwards (D28), written over a column imitating a bundle of stalks tied together (R11), supporting a ripple of water (N35), written within an oval (N102)." U+1413E: Unknown "R16C" "A standard resembling a lotus flower with two plumes on top (R16C), with a counterweight of a necklace (S18A), hanging down from either side of the plumes and from the top of the standard." U+1413F: Unknown "R16C" "A standard resembling a lotus flower with two plumes on top (R16C), with a counterweight of a necklace (S18A), hanging down from either side of the plumes." U+14140: Unknown "R16C" "A standard resembling a lotus flower with two plumes on top (R16C), with a counterweight of a necklace (S18A) hanging down at the far side." U+14194: Unknown "D10C" "A necklace, consisting of two eyes, with the markings of the head of a falcon, with a vertical line at the back with a triangle at the curl, as if seen from the front (Jsesh D10C), with an outwards and upwards loop of string, with a flower-like end-piece at the end of the string, orientated towards each other." U+143DB: Unknown "S65" "A rounded harp, with a female human head, in profile, with a headdress of bovine horns with a sun disk with two plumes on top of the sun-disk (S65) on the tip." *Notes*: - U+13B41: Unknown "Aa18A" may be a matter of case sensitivity, non matching with the values "Aa18a" (kEH_JSesh) and "AA18A" (kEH_HG) of U+14220. - U+14051: Unknown "N36C" may be related to some mismatch between the values "N36C" (kEH_HG) and "N36D" (kEH_JSesh) of U+13F34, and "N36D" (kEH_HG) of U+13F3D.
Date/Time: Sun June 1 04:37:41 PDT 2025
ReportID: ID20250601043741
Name: Mikhail Merkuryev
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: Egyptian JSesh A216C: 135C0 → C8?
By Unicode’s images, the difference between 135C0 and C8 is a line of tears in the extended (unconfirmed) hieroglyph C0. JSesh A216C does not have those tears, and matches the textual descriptions of core (confirmed) hieroglyph C8. Hieroglyphica A216C does actually have a line of tears.