Re: The 'phi' and 'phi symbol' glyph mess

From: Kenneth Whistler (
Date: Tue Aug 24 1999 - 14:04:49 EDT

Markus Kuhn wrote:
> Robert Herzog wrote on 1999-08-24 07:45 UTC:
> > So please swap the glyph images of U+03C6 and U+03D5 in the Unicode standard
> I made the same suggestion a week ago, and Asmus Freytag
> <> replied privately that Unicode 3.0 will indeed
> swap the example glyphs for the above two characters (just an editorial
> change, no change of character name or semantics), as most font
> designers competent in Greek typography have already done anyway.

I can confirm this.

By the way, as a favor to the editorial committee, might I request that
people on the general Unicode list find something other to do than
find problems in Unicode 2.0 (or 2.1) for the next several months? ;-)
We are in the dead time now when the editorial committee work is
essentially complete on Unicode 3.0, but the editor and a few of
us harried souls are working flat out to get through copy edit and
get the Unicode 3.0 book published. This is going to take several months,
during which period no significant edits or changes can go into the
text -- but after which you will all have a brand spanking new book
to comb through for a new raft of mistakes to report. (We have
incorporated somewhere between a gezillion and a bezillion fixes
into the Unicode 3.0 text already--and hopefully have introduced
no more than 17 huge skads of new errors into the text!)

In the meantime, if possible, save up your favorite problems to check
against the new book in a few months. Or quietly report them to, if you must. We'll check on them later.

--Ken Whistler (harried soul)

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