re: Internet Explorer 5, Unicode Fonts, and Fontographer

From: Michael Everson (
Date: Sun Oct 24 1999 - 12:59:03 EDT

Ar 08:45 -0700 1999-10-24, scríobh John Jenkins:

>They're documented at both Microsoft's and Adobe's typography sites. (Go to
> and search for typography.) Specifically, you're
>looking at the GSUB and GPOS OpenType tables, for which no public tool
>exists for editing.

You know, of course, that people like me who need to support lesser-used
scripts really need tools to edit such tables. It's probably fine for most
makers of Arabic fonts for instance to pirate tables from other fonts...
but there's lots of complex scripts out there which couldn't make use of
tables for another script.

>> And if a further version of Fontographer can support them?
>There is no further version of Fontographer. The latest version came out
>six years ago, and although there are occasional noises that it will be
>updated, I am frankly doubtful that it will ever happen.

It's up to Macromedia. I beg them now and again to do something. There was
a beta out about two years ago, but the testers had so many requirements
they pulled it for further work. That's OK, but we haven't heard from them
for a while.

>The latest general purpose font editor out there is FontLab, but it can't
>edit the OpenType tables, either. It will, however, at least preserve the

So the only people who can make real fonts for complex scripts are big
companies that can hire programmers to make inhouse tools for font
development, right? I've never seen FontLab, so I don't know what it's
like. I surely do wish Fontographer were updated, though.


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