RE: handwritten Arabic [was: arabic number in bidi algorithm]

From: Jonathan Rosenne (rosenne@qsm.co.il)
Date: Tue Nov 02 1999 - 12:13:51 EST


Chookij,

Hebrew does indeed have an alphabet. We normally use European digits, left
to right, but there is also a Hebrew numbering system which is used for
dates and list numbering and is based on Hebrew letters.

See: http://www.qsm.co.il/hebrew/Gimatria.htm

Jony

At 13:31 01/11/1999 -0800, Chookij Vanatham wrote:
>
>Not too sure if Hebrew doesn't really have hebrew number alphabet.
>If not, just curious about hebrew number. Hebrew doesn't have "hebrew
alphabet".
>It uses "european alphabet". So, should "hebrew number" be considered even
it's
>not hebrew alphabet ? If not, then, the number in hebrew would always from
left
>to right due to the strong type character of "european digit".
>
>
>Chookij V.
>
>] Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:34:34 -0800 (PST)
>] From: Jonathan Rosenne <rosenne@qsm.co.il>
>] Subject: RE: handwritten Arabic [was: arabic number in bidi algorithm]
>] To: Unicode List <unicode@unicode.org>
>] Cc: Unicode List <unicode@unicode.org>
>] MIME-version: 1.0
>]
>] It is the same for Hebrew. Numbers from left to right, guessing what is
>] enough space, and vowels right to left.
>]
>] Jony
>]
>] At 15:43 28/10/99 -0700, Reynolds, Gregg wrote:
>] >Right to left on all counts, according to my colleague from Pakistan, who
>] >also confirms that he writes (and reads) the most significant (leftmost)
>] >digit of numbers first. Which makes sense, since it reflects phonetic
>] >ordering. (It's the way I learned too; also in the most common
handwriting
>] >two dots gets a horizontal stroke, three a caret stroke.)
>] >
>] >-gregg
>] >
>] >> -----Original Message-----
>] >> From: Juliusz Chroboczek [mailto:jec@dcs.ed.ac.uk]
>] >> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:08 PM
>] >> To: Unicode List
>] >> Subject: Re: handwritten Arabic [was: arabic number in bidi algorithm]
>] >>
>] >>
>] >> Mark Leisher <mleisher@crl.nmsu.edu>:
>] >>
>] >> ML> A brief verbal survey of native Arabic and Persian co-workers says
>] >> ML> they all write most significant digit first in handwriting.
>] >>
>] >> And what about the dots in words with more than one? In which order
>] >> do they write them? Do they go back to the beginning of the word (R)
>] >> and write them R2L, or do they put them on backwards? Same question
>] >> about short vowels (assuming they are ever used in hand writing).
>] >>
>] >> J.
>] >>
>] >
>



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