RE: [nelocsig] Re: Generic Unicode font handling

From: Marco.Cimarosti@icl.com
Date: Thu Nov 18 1999 - 05:51:18 EST


Unbelievable: I can read it!

However, when someone else quoted the same text in their mails, I could not
read it anymore (each accented and Cyrillic letter became 2-byte garbage).

The funny thing is that although my mail client seems able to *read* UTF-8,
when I tried myself to *send* UTF-8 content on this list it arrived
corrupted (0x80-0x9F bytes where converted to something else).

I wander whether, when this mails will come back to me through the list, I
will still be able to read the UTF-8 text quoted below.

- Marco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank da Cruz [SMTP:fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu]
> Sent: 1999 November 17, Wednesday 16.00
> To: Unicode List
> Cc: unicode@unicode.org
> Subject: RE: [nelocsig] Re: Generic Unicode font handling
>
> > All that is about HTML e-mails. HTML is hardly proprietary
> > these days... Though a tighter specification on how to
> > handle HTML font size indications, with ensuing implementations
> > and better defaults, is still needed.
> >
> HTML is as proprietary as any vendor wants to make it.
> There is no reason to send ordinary text as HTML or any other
> marked-up format, since it makes the poor assumption that the
> recipient of the mail is prepared to handle the markup.
>
> But let's not go off on this tangent again -- I think we can all
> agree that the current situation with email is a bad one; there
> should have been some attempt at standardizing what goes on the
> wire rather than the free-for-all we have today.
>
> Anyway, our business is plain text and that's what we should
> be talking about. Are we sending email in marked-up formats
> only so we can put Unicode in it? There should be no need
> for that.
>
> Who can't read this?
>
> 'Sne klwen durh die wolken sint geslagen,
> er stget f mit grzer kraft,
> ich sih in grwen tgelch als er wil tagen,
> den tac, der im geselleschaft
> erwenden wil, dem werden man,
> den ich mit sorgen n verliez.
> ich bringe in hinnen, ob ich kan.
> sn vil manegiu tugent michz leisten hiez.'
>
> Or this:
>
> ?? ?????? ????????? ????
> ????? ??, ??? ??????? ????,
> ? ????? ??????. ???? ??? ??????
> ???? ???????; ?????? ????
> ?? ??? ????????? ???????.
> ?? ???????, ?????? ???????
> ??????? ???? ????? ? ???,
> ????? ??????? ???????;
> ? ???, ????????? ?????
> ? ?????? ??????????? ??????,
> ?????? ?????.
>
> If we can't send and receive plain Unicode text in MIME-tagged
> email, maybe that's what we should concentrate on first.
>
> - Frank



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