RE: Persian developers (was Re: Detecting installed fonts in ...

From: Munzir Taha (
Date: Sat Jul 15 2000 - 23:23:03 EDT

I vote to your suggestion of opening a separate list. I also hope to see
someone spoke about what these HEH, YEH and the like came from. These
so-called Arabic letters are no Arabic at all. I have no time to follow
these errors and try to correct them, but hope one can do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: N.R.Liwal []
Sent: Fri, July 14, 2000 11:14 AM
To: Unicode List
Cc: Unicode List
Subject: Re: Persian developers (was Re: Detecting installed fonts in

Dear Roozbeh;

In Arabic and Arabic Extended Languages like Pashto, Farsi, Urud and
many other I think we need to talk about Standardization, of certin issues
specially the Fonts, due to UNICODE which are now possible to be used
by several languages. An Arabic Font developer can just Add 6 other
characters to provide support for Farsi and Add 10 more that font
can be used for Pashto and 4 more to be used for Farsi.

The Farsi Yeh (06cc) and (06a9) is a Font issue in Microsoft Windows 2000,
and It was not spported on Kernal Level in Windows 95 and 98.

In my fonts for Pashto, Farsi and Urdu, the Decimal Separator and thousnad
sparator are:

Decimal Separator ="\x060c"
Thousand Separator ="\x066c"

Infact the above was standardized in Afghanistan and Pakistan, while
using the Hindi Numbering system. In Iran so far I have information
some developer, did made fonts for Arabic Windows 3.x while replacing
some Arabic characters with Farsi and I think they did the same while
porting their work to Windows 95 or 98, using 0649 instead of 06cc
and 0643 instead of 06a9.

At present while most of us are porting to UNICODE and OS like
Windows 2000 fully support UNICODE we Arabic script user
need to have forum to talk about the Standardizations.

The good Idea will be if UNICODE provide us a Separete list
Called "Arabic & Extended Languages" or I can host one, if
anyone is interested let me know by email to


----- Original Message -----
From: Roozbeh Pournader <>
To: Unicode List <>
Cc: Unicode List <>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Persian developers (was Re: Detecting installed fonts in ...

> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote:
> > I looked at two of the docs it looks like they were using U+002C for
> > the decimal separator even when they were using Unicode (I do not know
> > how common that choice would be).
> That's not good for typography. For Persian usages, U+002F (slash) is even
> better than that. The slash is usually misused for that purpose when the
> charset lacks the Persian decimal separator.
> --roozbeh

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