From: Mark Davis (mark.davis@jtcsv.com)
Date: Thu Oct 10 2002 - 19:25:44 EDT
We used the term "internationalization" in Apple in late 85. We might have
also used it earlier than that, I don't remember.
W0e n3r u2d t1e g1d-a3l, g3y a1d o5e a10n "i18n", h5r!
Mark
__________________________________
http://www.macchiato.com
► “Eppur si muove” ◄
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tex Texin" <tex@i18nguy.com>
To: "Barry Caplan" <bcaplan@i18n.com>
Cc: "Rick McGowan" <rick@unicode.org>; <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 13:14
Subject: Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.?
> >From the books I looked at this morning, the term "localization" was
> very much in use in the late 80s by most vendors.
> It seems "internationalization" came later, and was more vendor specific
> until 92/93.
> Then came i18n.
> then came l10n, g11n, e13n (europeanization), j10n (japanization)...
>
>
>
> Barry Caplan wrote:
> >
> > At 08:35 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, Rick wrote:
> > >The earliest reference I can find to "i18n" in my old e-mail trail is
the
> > >following e-mail to the "sun!unicode" mail list by Glenn Wright. This
was
> > >Oct 5, 1989. By that time, the term was definitely current, as Mr.
Hiura
> > >suggests.
> >
> > I registered i18n.com around 94 or so, and the fellow, whose name I am
trying hard to recall (first name JR, Australian or British IIRC, red hair),
seemed to indicate the coinage was quite some time before that and he was
very surprised when I told him how extensive the usage was by then.
> >
> > I'm a jonny-come-lately when it comes to unix and other standards
history... is there an searchable archive of windows standards anywhere? How
about a cvs server of code? It seems to me that i18n or variants could have
made it into code as a function name almost immediately, or possibly even
before being put into a standards doc....
> >
> > It seems to me that l10n was extant by the time I came to CA ~ 1992.
> >
> > Perhaps Ken Lunde can shed some light - he surely came across a lot of
early docs while writing his first book, which was a republication of an
online archive he maintained I think.
> >
> > Barry
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Tex Texin cell: +1 781 789 1898 mailto:Tex@XenCraft.com
> Xen Master http://www.i18nGuy.com
>
> XenCraft http://www.XenCraft.com
> Making e-Business Work Around the World
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Thu Oct 10 2002 - 20:17:36 EDT