Re: Origin of the term i18n

From: David Possin (
Date: Sat Oct 12 2002 - 11:47:04 EDT

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    I am thankful that these short forms exist, as I must use them a lot in my
    work where space is priceless: charts, tables, project plans, etc.

    Not only does it save a lot of time (especially now where I can type only
    with 1.5 hands - broken thumb) but it looks more neat in overall
    documentation. I agree, in a text or book I would not necessarily use them
    if I wasn't sure who the readers are and what their level of knowledge in
    our area is.

    Definitely better than InTeRn@i*nAlIÊ’@i*n which OE automatically identifies
    as an email address ...

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Barry Caplan" <>
    To: "Mark Davis" <>; "Tex Texin" <>;
    "Unicoders" <>; "NE Localization SIG"
    Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: Origin of the term i18n

    > At 12:20 PM 10/11/2002 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
    > >> Mark, I am curious why you find this term so distasteful? Is it the
    > >algorithm itself or just a general objection to acronyms and the like? Or
    > >something else entirely?
    > >
    > >I find this particular way of forming abbreviations particularly ugly and
    > >obscure.
    > I think it is a meme that is catching on and it serves various purposes
    more important than "saving keystrokes":
    > - these are important words that describe entire fields of study in many
    > - many of them (internationalization, globalization, e.g) are in the
    common vernacular, with vague denotations and possibly negative connotations
    in the general public
    > - As such the words are seriously overloaded and confusing
    > - Not only that, but they are spelled differently in various parts of the
    English speaking world, which affects indexing.
    > - They are long and hard to spell for non-native speakers (and probably
    most US native speakers too)
    > - They are toungue twisters for all, especially for some non-native
    English speakers
    > - The overloading of definitions, even within scholarly fields, is calling
    out for a separation and branding (do a search on localization and see how
    many branches of science you get)
    > - Long words really suck for design purposes. You would be limited to
    about 9 point type on your business card if anything other than your title
    included "Internationalization"

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