Re: hacked fonts in MS-Windows: rev. solidus vs Yen/Won

From: Doug Ewell (
Date: Sat Nov 02 2002 - 13:40:34 EST

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    Apologies in advance to Jungshik for reposting this to the list. I felt
    the usual conditions applied: general interest to the list, no harm done
    to Jungshik, etc.

    Jungshik Shin <jshin at mailaps dot org> wrote:

    >> This helps perpetuate the idea that U+005C could be either a reverse
    >> solidus, a won sign, or a yen sign, depending on the font. This is
    >> exactly what Unicode is *not* about. Microsoft usually understands
    >> this.
    > Do you know any good way to persuade Microsoft on this point other
    > than writing to the Unicode list? If you have any personal contact,
    > it may be a good idea to begin lobbying for our idea via that channel?
    > As you wrote, MS usually knows what Unicode is or is not about, but in
    > this particular case, they're certainly off the track possibility out
    > of the overzeal to preserve 'the compatibility'. This has to be taken
    > care of as soon as possible to stop the perpetuation of a wrong idea
    > that U+005C is overloaded with reverse solidus and yen/won sign.

    I don't have any contacts at Microsoft, but there are several MSers on
    the list who might be able to make a difference here.

    Microsoft will have to ask themselves exactly what compatibility is
    being preserved here. Unicode finally offers a way to get out of that
    messy overloaded-ASCII situation they got into with the code pages.
    Converting from duals is never easy -- you always have to guess which of
    the two was intended -- but continuing to claim that U+005C could be
    three different characters doesn't help.

    -Doug Ewell
     Fullerton, California

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