Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

Date: Thu Nov 21 2002 - 23:55:22 EST

  • Next message: John Hudson: "Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?"

    Dear Folks,

    Let me tell you my experience of Hindi language with the MS Sql 2000, MS
    Access 2000, MS Word 2000 and Outlook express.

    My system is running on Windows 2000 Professional. I have installed the
    Indian languages patch provided with the Windows 2000 OS.

    When I use the Hindi Tradition with MS Sql and Outlook Express, I get exact
    what I want without any problem. But when I use the MS Word 2000 and MS
    Access 2000 for the same. I encounter problems with the letter conjunction.

    you may see here, when I am writing my name Rajesh with this outlook.. राजेश

    It does not waste any space. but when I use the language in MS Access and MS
    word 2000, I get like this.... रा जे श
    It gets one space after each hindi letter.

    What could be the problem with Access and Word?

    with regards,

    Rajesh Chandrakar
    INFLIBNET Centre,

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John Hudson" <>
    To: "Gary P. Grosso" <>
    Cc: <>
    Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:51 PM
    Subject: RE: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

    > At 05:34 AM 11/21/2002, Gary P. Grosso wrote:
    > >As this will likely come up in my line of work (tech support and
    > >troubleshooting for products which, among other things, export HTML),
    > >I would be interested in any more detail/explanation (or pointers to
    > >such) about "using Uniscribe for complex text rendering" and/or why
    > >using Arial Unicode MS would cause such a problem, or why using a
    > >different font would solve the problem.
    > Uniscribe contains the MS complex script shaping engines. These perform a
    > variety of functions, depending on the script, including character
    > re-ordering and application of OpenType Layout features for basic language
    > shaping. In order for a Uniscribe application to correctly display a
    > complex script, the version of Uniscribe that supports the script must be
    > installed (Uniscribe ships with Windows and with IE; depending on the
    > version of Windows or IE, you will encounter slightly different script
    > support/implementation), and you need a font that contains appropriate
    > OpenType Layout (glyph substitution and glyph positioning) to render the
    > script. The current shipping version of Arial Unicode MS contains basic
    > Hindi characters, but does not contain the additional glyphs or layout
    > features necessary to correctly display Hindi; I believe MS are working on
    > an update to this font.
    > For more information see:
    > >I think I'm "hearing" that some combination and/or reordering
    > >of glyphs is needed for Hindi, and just having the right characters
    > >alone isn't enough... is that on the right track?
    > Correct. This is why Hindi is a 'complex script'.
    > John Hudson
    > Tiro Typeworks
    > Vancouver, BC
    > It is necessary that by all means and cunning,
    > the cursed owners of books should be persuaded
    > to make them available to us, either by argument
    > or by force. - Michael Apostolis, 1467

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