From: Jungshik Shin (jshin@mailaps.org)
Date: Wed Dec 18 2002 - 06:57:56 EST
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Andrew C. West wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:20:00 -0800 (PST), Michael Everson wrote:
ME> These 950 syllables are insufficient to express anything but
ME> newspaper and bureaucratic Tibetan.
ACW> everything, and if the proposal were to be accepted, the existing Tibetan
ACW> character encoding model would still have to be used on occasion to encode
ACW> rarely seen forms.
Having to use both precomposed forms and the existing Tibetan
characters would lead to a pretty severe headache when it comes to
normalization as Ken mentioned taking an example of Korean script. As I
mentioned many times, there are so many unnecessary precomposed forms
and cluster letters encoded for Korean script in Unicode although only
45(= 17 consonants x 2 + 11 vowels) plus a few more letters would have
been sufficient. This makes the normalization a lot more complex(and
'dirtier') than otherwise. I hope Chinese nat'l standard body and
Tibetans involved in the proposal will learn a lesson from Korean example
and be persuaded to withdraw their proposal which is misguided as you
wrote and as short-sighted as Korea's successful attempt 10 years ago.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:10:13 -0800 (PST), Marco Cimarosti wrote:
MC> 2. Come up with a precise machine-readable mapping file between
MC> BrdaRten encoding to *decomposed* Unicode Tibetan, possibly
MC> accompanied by a sample conversion application.
ACW> The mapping is simple, and given a mapping table I could write a
ACW> conversion application in five minutes. If anyone thinks that a mapping
ACW> table would be useful as a weapon in the fight against the Chinese
ACW> proposal, I would be happy to provide one.
I think what Marco suggested would be very good to have when
persuading Chinese and Tibetans however easy it's to produce
them. Wouldn't it be a bit tedious, though? Perhaps, with 900+ of them,
it might not. I have about 5000 archaic precomposed Korean syllables
encoded in PUA to decompose into Jamo sequences and it's not so fun.
I just have to print them all out and input them with U+1100 Jamos,
but typing them all takes a lot of time.
Jungshik
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