Re: Oh No! Not a new Adobe Glyph List!!!

From: John Hudson (
Date: Wed Jan 01 2003 - 14:00:36 EST

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    At 02:00 AM 1/1/2003, Kevin Brown wrote:

    > >David Lemon at Adobe mentioned to me during the summer that Adobe was
    > >considering ditching the AFII-based names in the AGL and using uniXXXX
    > >names instead for things like Arabic, since having two human-unfriendly
    > >numbering systems, one of them totally obsolete, is really daft. I don't
    > >know if they've followed through on that...
    >Maybe they are in fact following through on that, and this new version of
    >the AGL is "transitional" ie it has both the old (afii) and new
    >(human-friendly) glyph names mapped to the same codepoints, as in your

    No, you misunderstand me. The proposal was to replace the AFII number names
    by using uniXXXX names, not introducing new human-friendly names.

    > ... and then in the next AGL version only the new human-friendly glyph
    >names will be there, completing the transition.
    >If this is the strategy, it would follow that AGL 2.0 is probably an
    >INTENTIONAL public release.

    No, this doesn't make any sense at all. The whole point of the AGL is that
    it includes *machine*-friendly names (which may or may not also be
    human--friendly: 'Alpha' is human-friendly, 'AFII10456' is not) that are
    recognised by ATM, Distiller, etc. Introducing new human-friendly names
    into the AGL is simply a recipe for breaking existing software. This is why
    I'm inclined to think that the posted AGL is erroneous, unless it is
    actually true that the software in question already recognises these names
    and we simply didn't know it.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Vancouver, BC

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