From: Andy White (Andy__White@btinternet.com)
Date: Thu Feb 13 2003 - 11:51:13 EST
Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> Andy White wrote:
> > I think that Jim Agenbroad seems to have neatly come up with the
> > solution, and if no one disagrees, this needs to be
> documented in TUCS
> > or at least the Indic FAQ.
>
> The Unicode Standard disagrees. TUS3.0, Chapter 9, page 214,
> Figure 9-3 ("Conjunct Formations"), example (4) says that it
> should be encoded as <U+0930 U+094D U+090B>:
>
> "RAd + RIn -> RIn + RAsup"
>
> That's absolutely intentional, as explained in the following
> paragraph:
>
> "A number of types of conjunct formations appear in
> these examples: [...] and (4) a rare conjunct formed with an
> independent vowel letter, in this case the vowel letter RI
> (also known as vocalic r). Note that in example (4) in Figure
> 9-3, the dead consonant RAd is depicted with the nonspacing
> combining mark RAsup (repha)."
In the light of Jim Agenbroads information and references, I think this sentence is wrong.
> > He said that Devanagri Letter Vocalic R with Superscript Letter Ra
> > (Vowel R with reph) should be encoded as "Ra + Vowelsign
> Vocaliic R"
> > (u+0930, u+0943)
>
> Sequence <U+0930 U+0943> has indeed the same meaning (i.e.
> pronunciation) as the sequence above, but it has a different
> visual representation. See it in TUS3.0, Chapter 9, page 222,
> Table 9-2 ("Sample Ligatures (Continued)"), right-hand
> column, 4th row from bottom.
I'm sorry Marco, but you have got your rows and coulombs muddled!
> In this ligature, both U+0930 and U+0943 have their normal
> glyphs, but the matra is joined in a unusual location (on the
> middle of the right side of the letter, rather than below it)-
I think you are looking at the third row which depicts 'RA+UU' (U+0930 U+0942)
The fourth row up shows the combination of Ha + Vocali R (U+0939 U+0943)
> This visual representation actually exists (I have seen it
> often on Sanskrit grammars), and is much more common that
> <independentRI + repha>.
Yes, 'hri' and 'ruu' are common but we were talking about 'rri' right?
Andy
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