Re: Ancient Greek

From: Edward C. D. Hopkins (
Date: Fri Apr 04 2003 - 14:07:12 EST

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    Yes, I am very interested in the Unicode aspects of handling multiple glyphs
    of one Greek character. My original thoughts were to use the PUA, but some
    knowledgeable people have suggested I ask for advice on this list for ideas
    before using the PUA.

    Essentially, I have two issues. First is the encoding of multiple glyphs for
    one Greek character. Please see for the current layout of
    the glyphs. The font will also contain a few numismatic symbols not already
    in the Unicode. Compounding this problem is that OpenType substitution
    features do not seem to be widely supported and I need a usable font in the
    near future that works across the spectrum of Unix, Mac, and Windows
    applications, including sorting in databases.

    Second problem is the construction of a (second and distinct?) font that
    contains over a thousand Hellenistic monograms which James Kass has
    accurately identified in another message of this thread. I have some 20 Mac
    Type 1 fonts containing the glyphs and can post samples if asked. These
    monogram fonts are currently used by scholars, museums and commercial firms
    in publishing catalogs of numismatic items. My font-making efforts will
    concern only the Hellenistic, Parthian and Bactrian monograms, but there are
    probably tens of thousand of them if all the coinage through history is


    Chris Hopkins

    > This looks an interesting discussion and I hope that you will ask your
    > questions in this forum.
    > The matter of multiple alternate glyphs for each character seems at first
    > font issue, and it is partly a font issue, yet it is also a Unicode issue
    > once one starts trying to encode a document which is intended to apply
    > glyphs in some controlled selection manner. For example, are you going to
    > have some texts such as "Author A uses the symbol X for beta whereas
    > B uses the symbol Y for beta." where X and Y are just two of the "multiple
    > alternate glyphs" which you mentioned?
    > What please is a Hellenistic monogram? I am wondering whether this is
    > to be a good application of the Private Use Area, either on a permanent
    > basis or on a temporary basis pending making a formal encoding
    > In either case, reading about the Private Use Area in Chapter 13 of the
    > Unicode specification available from the webspace
    > prove interesting.
    > William Overington
    > 4 April 2003

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