RE: IPA Null Consonant

From: Kent Karlsson (
Date: Thu May 29 2003 - 09:43:04 EDT

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    John Cowan wrote:
    > > I have yet to see anyone quote a linguistic texts that *explicitly*
    says that
    > > they use the empty set symbol for this "empty" linguistic entity.
    > Well, a linguistics paper I read yesterday (citation on request)
    > used the slashed-circle, aka empty set sign, to represent a
    > element (in this case an ellipsized word).

    Are you sure it wasn't a diameter sign? ;-) Seriously, glyph
    substitution aside,
    there does not appear to be a history of borrowing the empty set sign

    Michael Everson wrote:
    > >The empty set symbol stands for the empty set (also written {}).
    > >But there is no set here, let alone an empty one.
    > You are going to have to get over this, because you're wrong. The
    > empty set symbol is used in linguistics for the purpose described.

    I'll get over it when you find a reference (published pre-2003) that
    (in words!) say that they use the empty set sign for this, and
    preferably also
    show that this is the history of that use. Then I promise to be very
    (and nod ok)! ;-) (I would still quietly wonder why a click letter,
    looking like !,
    and the integral sign letter (small esh), got their own letter (Ll)

                    /kent k

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