Re: Revised N2586R

From: Michael Everson (
Date: Tue Jun 24 2003 - 05:46:10 EDT

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    At 00:41 -0500 2003-06-24, wrote:
    >Michael Everson wrote on 06/23/2003 07:54:13 AM:
    >> We have *all* seen the atom sign, and I have,
    >> as Liungman points out, seen it on maps, though I don't seem to have
    >> such a map here in the house.
    >But just because a symbol appears on maps, does that mean it should
    >be encoded as a character? I've seen a lot of maps that have a
    >pointed cross showing four cardinal points of the compass; should
    >we encode that?

    Sigh. Peter, it's just an example. It seems that there are a number
    of symbols use on maps which may also have other uses. The crossed
    swords which = battlefield in cartography and which = died in battle
    in genealogy. Should a COMPASS ROSE be encoded also? It's a fair
    question to ask.

    It is not clear to me that every symbol we have already encoded will
    be found in running text. Accordingly, some leeway needs to be given.
    Many "named" symbols, to me, have their own lives and are stronger
    candidates than things we already have encoded. What *is* the deal
    with U+2621 CAUTION SIGN? I guess it's supposed to look like a bend
    in the road or something, but I've surely never seen it. U+2668 HOT
    SPRINGS is pleasant, but it's a lot less motivated -- to my mind --
    than the DO NOT LITTER SIGN.

    Symbols are complex. I'm not afraid of encoding some more of them,
    and I've sucessfully helped to encoded a number of them over the past
    couple of years. Neither do I want to encode everything in every
    symbol font ever made, though.

    > > Similarly, the fleur-de-lis is a well-known named symbol which can
    > > be used to represent a number of things.
    >In text? I've seen it on flags, on license plates, on heraldic
    >crests, but can't recall seeing it in text.

    I don't have access to a Scout manual here.... ;-)

    > > I do the best I can. At the end of the day my document won its case
    >> and the five characters were accepted.
    >So, this isn't a new proposal? These characters have already been
    >accepted? (If so, that's fine.)

    It's a revision because there was a bug with some of the sample
    illustrations. It also differs from its previous version in that it
    gives new proposed code positions which reflect UTC input.

    Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  *

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