Re: Yerushala(y)im - or Biblical Hebrew (was Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels)

From: Jony Rosenne (
Date: Fri Jun 27 2003 - 03:58:19 EDT

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    You just discovered one more shortcoming of UniScribe. As you say, the
    authors did not consider this particular case. I suppose it will be fixed
    sooner or later.

    I don't see how this affects the discussion, though. UniScribe and most
    current fonts do not process the simple case of Holam correctly, and we
    don't take it to mean there is something wrong with the Holam.


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From:
    > [] On Behalf Of John Hudson
    > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:41 AM
    > To: Mark Davis
    > Cc: Kenneth Whistler;;
    > Subject: SPAM: Re: Biblical Hebrew (Was: Major Defect in
    > Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels)
    > At 02:45 PM 6/26/2003, Mark Davis wrote:
    > >Another consequence is that it separates the sequence into two
    > >combining sequences, not one. Don't know if this is a
    > serious problem,
    > >especially since we are concerned with a limited domain with
    > non-modern
    > >usage, but I wanted to mention it.
    > It is a serious problem if separate combining sequences
    > means, as it seems
    > to in all the current apps I have tested, that marks
    > separated by one of
    > these control characters cannot be correctly positioned relative to a
    > preceding consonant. Insertion of any zero-width control
    > character between
    > two marks applied to the same Hebrew consonant results in a loss of
    > interraction between the marks (i.e. the first mark is not
    > repositioned to
    > accomodate the second) and the second mark loses all positioning
    > intelligence and falls between the consonant and the next
    > one. My guess is
    > that the layout engine (Uniscribe in this case) makes the reasonable
    > assumption that the two combining sequences do not interract.
    > John Hudson
    > Tiro Typeworks
    > Vancouver, BC
    > If you browse in the shelves that, in American bookstores,
    > are labeled New Age, you can find there even Saint Augustine,
    > who, as far as I know, was not a fascist. But combining Saint
    > Augustine and Stonehenge -- that is a symptom of Ur-Fascism.
    > - Umberto Eco

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