Re: Biblical Hebrew (Was: Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels)

From: John Hudson (
Date: Thu Jun 26 2003 - 18:41:17 EDT

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    At 02:45 PM 6/26/2003, Mark Davis wrote:

    >Another consequence is that it separates the sequence into two
    >combining sequences, not one. Don't know if this is a serious problem,
    >especially since we are concerned with a limited domain with
    >non-modern usage, but I wanted to mention it.

    It is a serious problem if separate combining sequences means, as it seems
    to in all the current apps I have tested, that marks separated by one of
    these control characters cannot be correctly positioned relative to a
    preceding consonant. Insertion of any zero-width control character between
    two marks applied to the same Hebrew consonant results in a loss of
    interraction between the marks (i.e. the first mark is not repositioned to
    accomodate the second) and the second mark loses all positioning
    intelligence and falls between the consonant and the next one. My guess is
    that the layout engine (Uniscribe in this case) makes the reasonable
    assumption that the two combining sequences do not interract.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Vancouver, BC

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