From: Doug Ewell (email@example.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 2003 - 12:04:30 EDT
<Peter_Constable at sil dot org> wrote:
> And might I also suggest that you create a Yahoo discussion group or
> MSN community for PUA use, and then carry on discussion of ways to use
> the PUA there rather than here?
I don't agree -- if this was Peter's intent -- that *all* discussions of
the PUA and its potential uses should be considered off-limits to the
Unicode list. Some legitimate uses of the PUA include:
* Michael Everson's and Roozbeh Pournader's provisional PUA assignments
for ARABIC PASHTO ZWARAKAY and AFGHANI SIGN, two legitimate characters
that cannot be represented in Unicode by any other means.
* Provisional assignments of other characters or entire scripts that are
genuine candidates for Unicode, to allow testing of certain features and
* On the edge, something like the ConScript Unicode Registry, where the
characters and scripts are normally not candidates for Unicode
(exceptions exist: Deseret, Shavian, Visible Speech) but at least they
ARE characters in the Unicode sense.
Unfortunately for William and his continued efforts, compatibility
ligatures and precomposed forms are not suitable PUA uses. These things
*can* be represented in Unicode, unlike the examples I gave above.
(Whether a given browser or font can display them correctly is another
matter, but not a justification for creating new characters.) Neither
are mechanisms to represent non-character concepts like bold, italic,
header/footer, kumquat, ball/strike, etc. Hence the appropriateness of
Peter's other comment:
> Please, if you want to see things encoded as characters, then learn
> how to use the established processes for doing so (but please also
> learn what are and are not suitable candidates for character
As far as the "symbols to be used to indicate the availability of Audio
Description, Subtitle and Signing in television broadcasts" are
concerned, *if* these are actual characters that conform to the
definition of "character" in the WG2 "Principles and Procedures"
document, then it may be appropriate to propose them for Unicode.
(Symbols per se are not excluded.) If not, they probably aren't
appropriate for the PUA either.
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