Re: Display of Isolated Nonspacing Marks (was Re: Questions on ZWNBS...)

From: John Cowan (
Date: Sat Aug 09 2003 - 23:13:17 EDT

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    Philippe Verdy scripsit:

    > Except that in that case, we are no speaking about something that has
    > already been standardized, but only used as a legacy mean to achieve
    > some results with mosre or less success.

    It *is* part of the Unicode Standard. You want a stand-alone diacritic?
    Use SP or NBSP followed by the combining diacritic. It says so, right

    Your implementation doesn't work? Complain to the implementor, switch to
    another implementation, fix the implementation yourself, or pay someone
    to fix it.

    > SPACE+diacritic is still a hack, and certainly not a canonical equivalent
    > (including for its properties), of the existing spacing diacritics, which
    > also do not fit all usages because they are symbols.

    It's the spacing diacritics that are a hack, for the most part. The
    ASCII ones have, as I said, taken on a life of their own.

    > * [OT] This was a shame when ISO adapted the DEC VT charset to
    > create ISO-8859-1, but forgot important characters needed for the
    > languages that this charset was supposed to cover (like the French
    > oe and OE ligatures, and a few characters missing for Baltic languages,
    > Icelandic, and Catalan.)

    ISO-8859-1 was not meant to cover the whole of Europe; it was part of
    a quartet, parts 1 to 4. The fact that parts 3 and 4 didn't work out was
    not ISO's fault: it didn't foresee how important European as opposed ot
    merely regional data interchange would be. As for oe-ligature, the
    French representative to WG3 (or its predecessor) said that France could
    live without it.

    John Cowan
    "If I have seen farther than others, it is because I am surrounded by dwarves."
            --Murray Gell-Mann

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