From: Mark Davis (mark.davis@jtcsv.com)
Date: Sun Aug 10 2003 - 03:30:03 EDT
> As for oe-ligature, the
> French representative to WG3 (or its predecessor) said that France
could
> live without it.
Even worse; the story I heard was that the committee had planned from
the start to have Œ and œ in positions D7 and F7, but that late in the
process the representative from France objected, so they replaced them
by × and ÷. That would certainly explain why these symbols are in the
middle of a batch of letters...
Mark
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cowan" <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
To: "Philippe Verdy" <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 20:13
Subject: Re: Display of Isolated Nonspacing Marks (was Re: Questions
on ZWNBS...)
> Philippe Verdy scripsit:
>
> > Except that in that case, we are no speaking about something that
has
> > already been standardized, but only used as a legacy mean to
achieve
> > some results with mosre or less success.
>
> It *is* part of the Unicode Standard. You want a stand-alone
diacritic?
> Use SP or NBSP followed by the combining diacritic. It says so,
right
> there.
>
> Your implementation doesn't work? Complain to the implementor,
switch to
> another implementation, fix the implementation yourself, or pay
someone
> to fix it.
>
> > SPACE+diacritic is still a hack, and certainly not a canonical
equivalent
> > (including for its properties), of the existing spacing
diacritics, which
> > also do not fit all usages because they are symbols.
>
> It's the spacing diacritics that are a hack, for the most part. The
> ASCII ones have, as I said, taken on a life of their own.
>
> > * [OT] This was a shame when ISO adapted the DEC VT charset to
> > create ISO-8859-1, but forgot important characters needed for the
> > languages that this charset was supposed to cover (like the French
> > oe and OE ligatures, and a few characters missing for Baltic
languages,
> > Icelandic, and Catalan.)
>
> ISO-8859-1 was not meant to cover the whole of Europe; it was part
of
> a quartet, parts 1 to 4. The fact that parts 3 and 4 didn't work
out was
> not ISO's fault: it didn't foresee how important European as opposed
ot
> merely regional data interchange would be. As for oe-ligature, the
> French representative to WG3 (or its predecessor) said that France
could
> live without it.
>
>
> --
> John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan
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by dwarves."
> --Murray Gell-Mann
>
>
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