From: Mark Davis (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 16:36:08 EDT
I'm sorry that you haven't gotten responses before. I have searched through my
email archive, and can't find anything like the message, and I don't think it
was brought up to the UTC formally.
The first one seems odd, and as you say, it would seem to only affect a
vanishingly small number of characters; since these are final character, one
presumes there would be subsequent characters that would form a larger
► “Eppur si muove” ◄
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matitiahu Allouche" <email@example.com>
To: "Mark Davis" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:08
Subject: [bidi] Re: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta)
> I have submitted the following text on the Unicode Reporting form.
> This report relates to the collation tables for Hebrew as displayed in
> I have already formulated the following remarks in the past, but no action
> has been taken, so I repeat them here.
> 1) Precedence of Dagesh over Final/non-Final: in the chart, the presence
> or absence of Dagesh is a Secundary difference, while Final/non-Final is a
> Tertiary difference. This is relevant only for letters Kaf and Pe. My
> gut feeling says that Final/non-Final should have precedence over
> Note that the number of actual cases where this would make a difference is
> probably *very* small.
> 2) There is something strange in the combinations of Shin with Dagesh and
> dots: for all other letters, the form without Dagesh sorts before the form
> with Dagesh. But Shin with Sin/Shin dot sort after their corresponding
> combinations with Dagesh. I cannot imagine a justification for that.
> I have submitted those reservations to the Technical Committee 2109 of the
> SII (Standards Institution of Israel, the Israeli NB), which deals with
> Hebrew-related standards in IT, and the committee endorsed my point of
> view. I can ask the committee to send you a confirmation letter if
> I would like to see some action taken on my remarks this time, or at least
> some justified refutation.
> Shalom (Regards), Mati
> Bidi Architect
> Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
> IBM Israel
> Phone: +972 2 5888802 Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52
> Sent by: firstname.lastname@example.org
> To: <email@example.com>
> cc: <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>
> Subject: [bidi] Re: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta)
> There are also beta collation charts in:
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