Re: font creation software for Unicode Hebrew proposal ?

From: John Hudson (
Date: Wed Oct 01 2003 - 17:19:43 CST

At 05:46 AM 10/1/2003, Elaine Keown wrote:

>For the Hebrew proposal, I'm mostly doing new
>vowels/diacritics since my beloved ligatures
>were outlawed.
>Is there somewhere a freely available glyph
>that has that little dotted circle used
>to display diacritics in Unicode documentation?

I can send you one. Any other generic glyphs you need?

>Is that part of the requirements, that I can
>position the vowel or diacritic glyph near
>the little dotted circle?

I think it is a good idea. You should try to make the glyphs as final as
possible, in case they end up being the only versions available for Unicode
glyph charts if the characters are accepted. So base them as closely as
possible on similar glyphs in the current code charts.

>And what does one call that in the design
>process, the ability to position the glyph

I presume that in your proposal you will simply make composites glyphs
containing both the dotted circle and the combining mark. That should be
perfectly sufficient for the proposal and for the glyph charts. Obviously,
in a 'real world' font, the marks will not be sitting on dotted circles,
but will be dynamically positioned relative to base characters (e.g. Hebrew
consonants). The latter would be called glyph positioning or, more
precisely if using a typical OpenType GPOS approach for mark positioning,
anchor attachment positioning.

>Also, last time I made little squares in a
>graphics program to hold my scanned,
>calligraphed ligatures etc. Are the little
>squares required also? Last time everything
>just went in the graphics program, which was
>time-consuming but not too difficult....

I don't think this is necessary. If you want to put the glyphs in squares,
you can do so in your layout or graphics program, rather than including the
squares with in glyphs.

Elaine, how many characters are you thinking about proposing? If you have
vector outline graphics (e.g. Illustrator EPS images), I can probably save
you some time, trouble and expense and can put a font together for you.

John Hudson

Tiro Typeworks
Vancouver, BC

You need a good operator to make type. If it were a
DIY affair the caster would only run for about five
minutes before the DIYer burned his butt off.
                                       - Jim Rimmer

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