From: Jim Allan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Nov 12 2003 - 15:55:40 EST
> /Accordingly both Ewellic and Theban could be treated as ciphers of /
> /subsets of the Latin script. /
////Michael Everson responded:
> I don't see how that follows at all.
We have two scripts in which the forms of the characters are not at all
those of the Latin script.
However for both every character can be matched with a corresponding
character in the Latin script.
So why would one be called a cipher and one not?
Ewellic, to be sure, does not match one to one with the standard Latin
alphabet. But I would presume that when Doug Ewell created it he was
familiar with either IPA or some other phonemic/phonetic notation such
as that in Webster dictionaries. I would suppose he created Ewellic as a
cipher of such characters.
Would Ewellic be any more or less useful if coded as a cipher of IPA
characters rather than in the PUA?
I recognize that there is no point in Unicode encoding separately Morse
code variants of Braille variants or signal flag variants of the Latin
script or bar code characters. (The complete coding of Braille in
Unicode is for another level of processing unrelated to representation
But if, in your opinion Theban and 3of9 bar code is on the cipher side
of a line and Ewellic is on the other side I would like to know the
logic on which this line is drawn.
I am suspicious that whether something is or is not in origin a cipher
should not be an issue.
What should be a issue is whether something is more *usefully coded* as
a separate script or as a font-style variant of characters in existing
scripts. I suspect almost no-one would to code Latin-letter Morse code
as a separate script, preferring to use a font change if it were desired
to render a message in Morse code.
I suspect also that no-one would care one way or the other about
encoding Theban or Klingon or Unifon in Unicode instead of using a
cipher font except for the prestige of the script being encoded
separately in Unicode instead of as a transliteration of a script
As far as I can see, for example, Unifon people favor an ASCII cipher
encoding over the conscript registry coding of Unifon. An IPA-based
cipher encoding might be better.
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