Re: Pre-1923 characters?

From: Philippe Verdy (
Date: Sat Jan 03 2004 - 10:20:21 EST

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    From: "Peter Kirk" <>
    > This letter looks nothing like U+01A3, which is also visible in the
    > bottom line of the attachment.

    You exhibit a glyph that ressembles to the two ligated digits "01", where
    the second goes below the baseline. This type of glyph variant is well known
    in some fonts that do not display all digits aboge the base line (notably
    the 4, 7 and 9 digits often have descenders). The right part of the glyph in
    Arial Unicode MS is rounded rather than angular like a "1" for this second
    part. This can be seen as a matter of style. But the first time I saw this
    "LETTER OI", I first identified it as a variant of "g" or "9", then the
    Unicode name uggested it would read as a ligature of a "o" and a dotless "i"
    or iota...

    I don't know which language really uses this character, but given the
    various way it appears in fonts, your proposed character really is within
    the variations admitted in some fonts to represent U+01A3.

    If there's a bad name for "LETTER OI", then how can we interpret the Unicode
    assignment, if neither the representative glyph, not available glyphs in
    common fonts, nor the noramtive Unicode name will reveal abstract character

    This means that the current character assignment needs clarifications... Or
    something which was specified in the assignment proposal is not published in
    the Unicode standard... Where can we find the Nxxx.pdf document describing
    the justification for encoding this character? If no clear statement was
    specifying its usage or was accepted by ISO/IEC 10646, then we have some
    weak assignment here, and the assigned character already covers your
    proposed character, until there's a real need to make it distinct (not
    unified) from the existing assigned character.

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