RE: New MS Mac Office and Unicode?

From: Han-Yi Shaw (
Date: Wed Jan 14 2004 - 16:15:30 EST

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    Similar to Apple's Lucida Grande, many of our updated Office fonts now
    include Basic Latin, Latin-1 Supplement, Latin Extended-A, Greek,
    Cyrillic, and Latin Extended Additional characters, etc. For example,
    the version of Times New Roman that shipped with Office X only included
    296 characters. In Office 2004, the same font now has 1,176 characters.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Peter Kirk []
    Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:08 PM
    To: Han-Yi Shaw
    Subject: Re: New MS Mac Office and Unicode?

    On 14/01/2004 13:01, Han-Yi Shaw wrote:

    >I'm glad some folks are reading me correctly. :-) After all, without
    >being Unicode-throughout, I don't see how it'd be possible to support
    >the 303 surrogates in the JIS X0213 standard like we do in Office 2004.
    >By "Unicode-throughout", we mean that MacOffice 2004 supports Unicode-
    >input, storage, and rendering. In the past (e.g., MacOffice X), our
    >apps only accepted characters in older encoding schemes, which then get
    >converted to their equivalent 16-bit form (in Unicode encoding) for
    >storage, after which are once again "downgraded" to MacRoman or
    >MacJapanese before sending them to QuickDraw routines for rendering.
    >In MacOffice 2004, this convoluted conversion process has been
    >completely eliminated.
    So, let me just check. In this case, and given suitable fonts, Mac Word
    2004 should be able to render correctly text in any language using
    precomposed Latin, Greek and Cyrillic scripts, indeed all LTR scripts
    with no composition or complex shaping?

    If you can confirm this, I will withdraw my negative comments with

    Peter Kirk (personal) (work)

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