[OT] Europe (Was:: Defined Private Use)

From: Ernest Cline (ernestcline@mindspring.com)
Date: Sun May 02 2004 - 19:42:47 CDT

> [Original Message]
> From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk@qaya.org>
> On 01/05/2004 14:21, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> >The Council of Europe, which includes 15 countries in Europe (including
> >Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, San Marino but excluding the Holy See, and
> >the next member Monaco) and Asia (including Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia,
> >Georgia, but still missing the Belarus). In some sense, the Council of
> >is still _a_ European Community, and it shares the same blue flag with 12
> >stars, and the same hymn.

Each time I hear the lovely, lovely music of the EU anthem I think of
film version of _A Clockwork Orange_, which I doubt was the intended

> Correction: Azerbaijan (where I am writing from), Armenia and Georgia
> are in Europe, as is part of Turkey, according to most current
> definitions. I'm not sure if Cyprus is, or for that matter Malta, but
> obviously they are by someone's definition.

Defining Europe is vague. By the definition I have most commonly
encountered tho, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia are not in Europe
by virtue of being south of the Caucasus. Those three countries,
Malta, Cyprus, and Turkey usually appear on maps of Europe, but
that's mostly because one would usually need to cover that area with
insets to not include them on a European map. However, in terms
of geography, I would say that in my own opinion, the trans-Caucasian
republics and Cyprus and not part of Europe, Malta is part of Europe,
while Russia, Greece and Turkey straddle the boundary between Asia
and Europe. (The eastern Aegean islands are geographically part
of Asia.)

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