Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

From: John Hudson (
Date: Fri May 21 2004 - 17:17:13 CDT

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    Dean Snyder wrote:

    >>those who oppose the encoding would better spend
    >>their time querying that need directly to the people who have expressed
    >>it than making
    >>silly, repetetive arguments about fraktur on this list.

    > Silly, it is not; repetitive, only because the argument is apropos, has
    > never been countered, and the same, non-analogous arguments along these
    > lines are being brought up repetitively.

    And is swaying no one, hence silly. Someone -- anyone remember who? -- once defined
    stupidity as repeatedly doing the same thing while expecting a different result.

    Dean, I happen to agree with many of the points you have made from your expert position,
    i.e. regarding the historical uncertainty regarding the origins of the so-called
    Phoenician script and its structural identity with Hebrew regardless of the entirely
    superficial glyph variation. Having spent much of the past year and a half working with
    semiticists and Biblical scholars, I've come to the conclusion that they know a heck of a
    lot more about semitic writing systems than typical Eurocentric writers of generic texts
    on the history and classification of writing systems. I think the expert comments of
    semitic scholars should be taken very seriously in considering proposals to encode semitic
    scripts, including objections to such proposals on grounds of script identity.

    I do not think, however, that you are now achieving anything other than annoying people. I
    am not objecting to what you hope to achieve, only pointing out that you are failing to
    achieve it with your current strategy.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Vancouver, BC
    Currently reading:
    Typespaces, by Peter Burnhill
    White Mughals, by William Dalrymple
    Hebrew manuscripts of the Middle Ages, by Colette Sirat

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