From: Dean Snyder (email@example.com)
Date: Fri May 21 2004 - 17:57:28 CDT
John Hudson wrote at 3:17 PM on Friday, May 21, 2004:
>Dean Snyder wrote:
>>>those who oppose the encoding would better spend
>>>their time querying that need directly to the people who have expressed
>>>it than making
>>>silly, repetetive arguments about fraktur on this list.
>> Silly, it is not; repetitive, only because the argument is apropos, has
>> never been countered, and the same, non-analogous arguments along these
>> lines are being brought up repetitively.
>And is swaying no one, hence silly. Someone -- anyone remember who? --
>stupidity as repeatedly doing the same thing while expecting a different
But hammering on the same nail with the same hammer can drive it home.
Nevertheless, even though I may be stupid, I do not accept the
characterization that I have been "doing the same thing". I have brought
up a multitude of different arguments over the past few weeks against
What I have repeated has been directed against those arguments that have
been made over and over on the same point. Are you accusing THOSE people,
too, of being stupid in their repetition?
>Dean, I happen to agree with many of the points you have made from your
>i.e. regarding the historical uncertainty regarding the origins of the
>Phoenician script and its structural identity with Hebrew regardless of
>superficial glyph variation. Having spent much of the past year and a
>half working with
>semiticists and Biblical scholars, I've come to the conclusion that they
>know a heck of a
>lot more about semitic writing systems than typical Eurocentric writers
>of generic texts
>on the history and classification of writing systems. I think the expert
>semitic scholars should be taken very seriously in considering proposals
>to encode semitic
>scripts, including objections to such proposals on grounds of script
>I do not think, however, that you are now achieving anything other than
>annoying people. I
>am not objecting to what you hope to achieve, only pointing out that you
>are failing to
>achieve it with your current strategy.
My strategy has been to try to have good, objective, and reasonable
discussions with encoding and script experts on the various points pro
and con for this proposed encoding. If that is not how to proceed, I
don't know how. What else should I do?
I've been told, in essence to shut up and "accept the inevitable". I was
hoping for better from this group.
What do you suggest I, or others, do other than have such discussions?
Dean A. Snyder
Assistant Research Scholar
Manager, Digital Hammurabi Project
Computer Science Department
Whiting School of Engineering
218C New Engineering Building
3400 North Charles Street
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, Maryland, USA 21218
office: 410 516-6850
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