Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

From: Asmus Freytag (
Date: Fri May 21 2004 - 19:11:58 CDT

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    At 03:34 PM 5/21/2004, Dean Snyder wrote:
    >Doug Ewell wrote at 3:07 PM on Friday, May 21, 2004:
    > >Dean Snyder <dean dot snyder at jhu dot edu> wrote:
    > >
    > >> ... And since Japanese and Fraktur are not separately encoded just
    > >> because there would be lots of people who would use such an encoding,
    > >> why would you, on that same faulty basis, support a separate encoding
    > >> for Phoenician?
    > >
    > >Where are you getting this from?
    > >
    > >You asserted yesterday that "so many people will embrace a new Fraktur
    > >range." I asserted that there was no such demand. Now you say again
    > >that lots of people want a separate Fraktur encoding.

    Yes, lots of people do - they are called mathematicians.
    And last I looked, we gave them not one, but two separate ranges for
    Fraktur symbols
    from 1D4504 to 1D537, and from 1D56C to 1D59F.

    > >
    > >Since you are the one trying to draw an analogy between Phoenician and
    > >Fraktur, in terms of demand for separate encoding, I think the burden is
    > >on you to prove that such a demand exists for Fraktur. Otherwise the
    > >analogy is pointless.
    >I've never said there was a demand for it; I've only said that lot's of
    >people would USE it if it were encoded. That is my opinion. Do you
    >disagree that lots of people would use a Fraktur encoding?

    For ordinary text, few people will need the separately encoded Fraktur.
    Its much easier to enter it as Latin and apply a font shift.

    >(Especially if
    >we're using "lots", as I am, in comparison to the number of people who we
    >think would use separately encoded Phoenician.) And if separate Fraktur
    >and Roman German encodings WERE used you would face the same kinds of
    >problems we would face with separately encoded Phoenician and Jewish Hebrew.


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