Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

From: Curtis Clark (
Date: Mon May 24 2004 - 10:05:40 CDT

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    I want to start out by saying that, although I personally support
    encoding Phoenician, I really have no stake in the outcome one way or
    the other, and I'm only participating in the "thread from Hell" (as I
    believe James Kass called it) because its dynamics interest me.

    on 2004-05-24 03:08 Peter Kirk wrote:
    > If so, please give us some evidence for another side.

    I have none. I would be astonished if there weren't another side, but
    far stranger things than that have happened, and I've been wrong before.

    > But maybe it is
    > something else. For example, if you read evolutionary biologists
    > strongly defending Darwinian evolution against creationist theories,
    > does that imply an internal squabble among evoutionary biologists and
    > therefore that some support creationism? Or does it rather imply a
    > closing of ranks against outsiders who are attacking their discipline, a
    > defence against (what they perceive as) unscientific attacks from those
    > who don't know what they are talking about?

    This is a very apt analogy. IMO, it is *precisely* because evolutionary
    biologists disagree about some fundamental issues in evolutionary
    biology (such as the relative importance and scope of natural selection)
    that they "close ranks". As a result, some of the arguments presented
    against creationism are caricatures. And the "they don't know what they
    are talking about" rhetoric is common on both sides.

    As one who has debated creationists, I know that there are other
    approaches, that work incrementally better in educating people whose
    minds are not already made up. But the Semiticists who have posted
    against the proposal on this group seem to be falling into the same
    closed-rank pattern that I know so well from my own field.

    Curtis Clark        
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