From: Alexander Savenkov (email@example.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 2004 - 10:22:03 CDT
2004-05-12T19:37:51+03:00 Ernest Cline <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> From: Alexander Savenkov <email@example.com>
>> 2004-05-12T03:08:59+03:00 Eric Muller <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> > According to <www.eki.ee>, there is a currently an effort to convert the
>> > writing of Tatar from Cyrillic to Latin.
>> > 1. Does somebody have more information about that effort?
>> Perhaps it's their own effort.
>> > Eki lists four characters as needed but missing in Unicode (see
>> > 2. The case pair for barred o is encoded (U+019F and U+0275), and it
>> > seems that their confusion comes from less-than-perfect but annotated
>> > name for U+019F, and from the usage remark "African". Can we
>> > authoritatively tell them that those two characters are the ones they
>> > want? Can we add a "Tatar" usage remark to both?
>> Is there a need for this? You don't want to tell everyone on the net
>> about his or her wrong assumptions. There's one sentence in the page
>> you mentioned that gives a good description of this resource:
>> "The conversion from Cyrillic to Latin script is planned within years
>> This is false.
>> > 3. The case pair n with descender is definitely not encoded, and from my
>> > memory of the discussion of ghe with descender, we would want to encode
>> > them as separate characters (rather than with combining descenders on
>> > "n"). Is anybody working on that proposal?
>> There's no Latin Tatar script. It's the law. Full stop.
>> It's the Institute of Estonian language. I hope they know more about
>> Estonian than about other languages and Unicode.
> They are numerous sites on the web about the change from Cyrillic to
> Latin for Tatar that is planned for completion by 2011 by the Republic
> of Tatarstan (a part of the Russian Federation).
Ernest, I fail to see how the fact that there are numerous sites about
Latin for Tatar proves it really exists. There are numerous sites
about Babylon 5 and Frankenstein. What are your thoughts about these?
> There is legal wrangling
> over wether Tatarstan can make the change back to Latin script official
> for Tatar as it is used there, but no final decision has been reached and
> there is probably at least several more years of legal shenanigans
> before it is reached.
You're wrong and the facts you give here are outdated. Legal wrangling
is over. See links below (in Russian).
> As for the merits of the proposed change back to Latin, I think
> it is silly for Tatarstan to make the change and it is silly for the
> Russian Federation to oppose it.
Your clever thoughts are really helpful. I wonder what Russians and
Tatars would do without them.
Links in Russian:
-- Alexander Savenkov http://www.xmlhack.ru/ email@example.com http://www.xmlhack.ru/authors/croll/
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