Re: Encoded rendering instructions (was Unicode's Mandate)

From: Dean Snyder (
Date: Wed Mar 09 2005 - 14:46:16 CST

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    Andrew C. West wrote at 1:57 AM on Wednesday, March 9, 2005:

    >> This is impressive. It supports everything Dean had asked for, and much
    >> more (Debbie's quick summary doesn't even scratch the surface). It just
    >> doesn't happen to involve new Unicode characters.
    >It certainly is impressive,

    Actually the CONCEPTS are fairly well thought out but the IMPLEMENTATION
    of those concepts in XML does not impress me, for the reason I've stated
    elsewhere - they all use non-empty tags, which disallows overlapping
    hierarchies, an ubiquitous feature in text streams.

    >and it really confirms to me that any attempt to
    >represent this sort of information in plain text using a new set of Unicode
    >characters is doomed to failure. As I said previously if you are storing
    >information about the state of a text in the text itself, you need to be
    >able to
    >record more than the fact that there is some unspecified damage to a certain
    >quadrant of a character.

    I've never suggested en masse substitution of encoded characters for
    markup; I would, in fact, be strongly against it as being ludicrous. What
    I have suggested is one small subset of epigraphic features as a
    candidate for encoding. Obviously there is a whole world of epigraphic
    features that belong in markup, but I suggest that the indication of the
    very presence or absence of portions of the actual text should be a
    feature enabled in plain text.


    Dean A. Snyder

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