From: Страхиња Радић (email@example.com)
Date: Thu Jun 02 2005 - 13:21:39 CDT
Дана 2005.06.01 00:44, Michael Everson је написао:
> >> It's used in the Balkans, not in Russia, so a
> >> Balkan Slavic name was used. It is some sort of
> >Is it really (Old) Slavic?
> No, I don't think so.
And... ? Why that name was chosen then?
It seems to me that Croatian was favored in place of Old Slavic for
Glagolitic. For start, in the Croatian version of the Glagolitic there is no
``yeriy'', as opposed to (original) Old Slavic version (ie. the Bulgarian
version maintained the original Old Slavic ``yeriy''). Ok, so you could add
Croatian-specific chars to the foundation of Old Slavic ones and everybody
would be happy. But that didn't happen. Instead, the Old Slavic version of
Glagolitic was crippled.
Secondly, ``TROKUTASTI'' is a Croatian word (in Serbian it would be
``TROUGLASTO'' and in Russian ``TREUGOL'NOE''). ``SHTAPITCH'' is both Serbian
and Croatian. I know the policies of the Unicode Consortium, and that nothing
can be changed, renamed or deleted, however, I think ``yeriy'' can and should
be *added*, correcting the mistake. And there is a reason why the Russian
typewriters all have ``yeriy'' as a separate key. ``Yeriy'' is a standalone
*sound* in Old Slavic and all its successor languages which had it. Also, in my
opinion, it would be better if the names were in (more general) Old Slavic or
English, instead in modern Serbian or Croatian. The official linguistic
oppinion is that the Glagolitic was invented for all Slavs, and not just one
part of them. Some other philologists say that the Glagolitic was just
optimized and sorted by St. Cyril and that he didn't *invent* it. Either way,
it is a general (Old) Slavic script, and not the sole property of any
particular Slavic nation.
Maybe ``fi'' and ``ffi'' are not so good as examples. Ok, they are
ligatures and they existed in some older standards. But what about ``Nj'' and
``Lj'' (0x01C7-0x01CC)? From which standard they originate? And you have *two*
different versions of capital ``NJ'' and ``LJ''!
As for the dotless ``i'', it was used by Serbian philologist Savo
Mrkaly, and its primary use was for modern ``JE''-sound for which Vuk
Karadzhich used ``j'', but it also had some other uses. It is also not taken
from Turkic dotless ``i'', which was devised in XX century, but from Greek
``iota''. I am currently searching for Mrkaly's work ``Сало дебелога јера'' and
I will scan it, and post the links to the important scanned parts when I find
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