Re: Letters missing for 19th century Latvian orthography?

From: Karl Pentzlin (
Date: Wed Aug 03 2005 - 13:12:14 CDT

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    Am Mittwoch, 3. August 2005 um 19:32 schrieb Chris Jacobs:

    CJ> I think this looks very much like the situation of n with macron which was
    CJ> discussed on this list.

    CJ> If those chars can be encoded with


    CJ> then I guess the missing ones would not be encoded.

    Of course. But I remember somehow that combinations of letters with
    things which cross or cover them will be treated as new encodeable characters,
    unlike combinations of letters with diacritics which are attached to the
    letter (like ogonek) or do not touch the letter at all (like macron).

    Is this assumption correct? If yes, is this documented somewhere?

    In fact, e.g. U+023B / U+023C LATIN CAPITAL (resp. SMALL) LETTER WITH
    STROKE were added in Unicode 4.1, and according to the roadmap some
    letters with "bar", "double bar", "middle tilde" and "stroke" were
    accepted e.g. at 2004-11-18 for code points 2C60-2C64.

    - Karl

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    CJ> From: "Karl Pentzlin" <>
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    CJ> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:38 PM
    CJ> Subject: Letters missing for 19th century Latvian orthography?
    >> According to sources (1) and (2), Latvian used some letters
    >> with diagonal stroke in its 19th century orthography. These are
    >> G,g, K,k, L,l, N,n, R,r, S,s, long s.
    >> See attached scans from (1) p.231 (Faulmann-p231.png) and from (2),
    >> p.595 (Allen-p595.png).
    >> Of these, only L,l are encoded in Unicode 4.1 (unless I overlooked
    >> something; I doubt that G,g with diagonal stroke can be treated as
    >> font variants of U+01E4, U+01E5).
    >> Is this sufficient evidence for encoding the missing ones?
    >> (As I have not any special knowledge of Latvian, I don't consider me
    >> qualified to write a proposal).
    >> (1) Faulmann, Carl, Das Buch der Schrift. Wien 1880
    >> Reprint Nördlingen 1985, ISBN 392156851X
    >> (2) Allen, C. G., A Manual of European Languages for Librarians.
    >> Londen & New York 1981, ISBN 0-85935-028-2

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