From: Peter Constable (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Tue May 22 2007 - 08:28:55 CDT
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Richard Wordingham
> The treatment of Hebrew hiriq and metheg
> provides a precedent for resolving conflicts - use CGJ to override the
> renedring effect of the canonical order.
Indeed, there's no reason that couldn't be generalized to other cases (and so, e.g., provide a means to retain the six-way contrast involving the three above marks of my earlier example).
> An interesting example is combining asterisk below. Now, I believe that
> when it modifies a consonant, as in the phonetic key attached
> (phon_key.png), a below vowel should go below the asterisk, despite the
> canonical order. (I can't find any examples either way.) However, if it is
> used with its Greek meaning - duplicating a previous transcription of a
> damaged manuscript for a no-longer legible character - it would naturally
> apply to the cluster of consonant and vowel below. My feeling is that the
> first use woud need <U+0359, CGJ, U+0E39 SARA UU> and the latter would just
> be <U+0E39, U+0359>. If <U+0E39, U+0359> is to mean vowel below asterisk,
> how are we to encode asterisk below vowel?
Well, I think you've already suggested <0e39, 0359> should display with asterisk below vowel, and that <0359, CGJ, 0e39> would display as vowel below asterisk.
>> Btw, I'd be interested in scanned samples of publications in which the
>> kinds of scenarios you're raising are attested.
> The examples are all taken from the 'Modern English-Thai Dictionary'...
Hmmm... I should try to get copies of some of the items you mention.
> One of the Mon-Khmer languages of N.E. Thailand uses what I think of as
> 'combining blob below' - one could probably get away with using U+0359
> COMBINING ASTERISK BELOW for it. I saw it in several words in a Genesis
> translation at the Rosetta Project, but I can no longer find the example,
> and I cannot remember the name of the language.
If you mean Kuy, I think the "blob" is nothing more exotic than phintuu.
> Martin Hosken has already raised the issue of U+0331 COMBINING MACRON BELOW
> and the vowels below in the context of a new orthography for one of
> Thailand's minority languages.
I don't recall the details. Was that on this list? Date?
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