From: Brian Wilson (bountonw@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Jul 21 2007 - 08:15:52 CDT
I am typing a Lao text using the original spelling. I need to type the attached word, but u+0EB1 vowel will not bind to u+0EBD. u+0EBD is currently only a vowel, but previously (prior to 1975) it was a semi-vowel that had both vowel and consonant properties.
Can documentation and encoding be updated to include this feature? That would strengthen the usability of the Lao fonts to be able to type pre-1975 text.
(In the future there are several Lao characters that will need to be added to unicode if linguists decide to preserve the final d, p, oi and other characters found in very old Lao text. That is a future issue.)
Brian Wilson, Director
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-----Original Message-----
From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Sinnathurai Srivas
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:44 AM
To: James Kass; Kent Karlsson
Cc: 'Unicode List'
Subject: Re: Generic base characters
Yes, orthography is the 1st chapter in the Grammar
It also includes phonology, (may be exactly as it is now defined by IPA and
more).
Please view my partially completed chart at
http://www.araichchi.net/chiirmai/phonemes/Tamil-IPA-chart.pdf
The authography is based on place of articulation and the accompanying
manipulations.
(Note: This chart is not yet complete. It would take a three diamensional
chart to resonably explain what is said and I'm struggling to define such a
chart at present.) It is also worth noting that Grammar does not defines the
shapes of characters, but the writing system. Does authography includes the
shape of chars?
1.5 and 1.6 states how to write elongated (I call it longer than long)
phonemes/vowels.
http://www.araichchi.net/chiirmai/phonemes/Tamil-IPA-chart.pdf
has my explanation, given in English.
Of course, the Grammar expands into other very serious chapters that can be
referenced, when it becomes necessary.
.
Regards
Sinnathurai
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kass" <thunder-bird@earthlink.net>
To: "Kent Karlsson" <kent.karlsson14@comhem.se>; "'Sinnathurai Srivas'"
Cc: "'Unicode List'" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: 18 July 2007 13:54
Subject: RE: Generic base characters
Kent Karlsson wrote,
> As to (1), I have a hard time seeing how *grammar* (even as "[The Tamil]
> Grammar")
> has anything to do with this.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_grammar
"Much of Tamil grammar is extensively described in the
oldest available grammar book for Tamil, the Tolkāppiyam.
Modern Tamil writing is largely based on the 13th century
grammar Naṉṉūl which restated and clarified the rules of
the Tolkāppiyam, with some modifications."
"Traditional Tamil grammar consists of five parts, namely
eḻuttu, col, porul, yāppu, aṇi."
The first of the five parts means "letter". The classic Tamil
grammar books describe, among other things, the Tamil
orthography.
Best regards,
James Kass
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