Lao font issue

From: Brian Wilson (
Date: Sat Jul 21 2007 - 08:15:52 CDT

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    I am typing a Lao text using the original spelling. I need to type the attached word, but u+0EB1 vowel will not bind to u+0EBD. u+0EBD is currently only a vowel, but previously (prior to 1975) it was a semi-vowel that had both vowel and consonant properties.


    Can documentation and encoding be updated to include this feature? That would strengthen the usability of the Lao fonts to be able to type pre-1975 text.


    (In the future there are several Lao characters that will need to be added to unicode if linguists decide to preserve the final d, p, oi and other characters found in very old Lao text. That is a future issue.)


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    -----Original Message-----
    From: [] On Behalf Of Sinnathurai Srivas
    Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:44 AM
    To: James Kass; Kent Karlsson
    Cc: 'Unicode List'
    Subject: Re: Generic base characters


    Yes, orthography is the 1st chapter in the Grammar

    It also includes phonology, (may be exactly as it is now defined by IPA and


    Please view my partially completed chart at

    The authography is based on place of articulation and the accompanying


    (Note: This chart is not yet complete. It would take a three diamensional

    chart to resonably explain what is said and I'm struggling to define such a

    chart at present.) It is also worth noting that Grammar does not defines the

    shapes of characters, but the writing system. Does authography includes the

    shape of chars?


    1.5 and 1.6 states how to write elongated (I call it longer than long)


    has my explanation, given in English.


    Of course, the Grammar expands into other very serious chapters that can be

    referenced, when it becomes necessary.






    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "James Kass" <>

    To: "Kent Karlsson" <>; "'Sinnathurai Srivas'"


    Cc: "'Unicode List'" <>

    Sent: 18 July 2007 13:54

    Subject: RE: Generic base characters




    Kent Karlsson wrote,


    > As to (1), I have a hard time seeing how *grammar* (even as "[The Tamil]

    > Grammar")

    > has anything to do with this.


    From Wikipedia:



         "Much of Tamil grammar is extensively described in the

         oldest available grammar book for Tamil, the Tolkāppiyam.

         Modern Tamil writing is largely based on the 13th century

         grammar Naṉṉūl which restated and clarified the rules of

         the Tolkāppiyam, with some modifications."


         "Traditional Tamil grammar consists of five parts, namely

         eḻuttu, col, porul, yāppu, aṇi."


    The first of the five parts means "letter". The classic Tamil

    grammar books describe, among other things, the Tamil



    Best regards,


    James Kass






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