Re: Level of Unicode support required for various languages

Date: Tue Oct 30 2007 - 07:39:02 CST

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    Quoting Ben Monroe <>:

    > On 10/30/07, John H. Jenkins <> wrote:
    >> On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Andrew West wrote:
    >> > On 29/10/2007, Peter Constable <> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> I guess I assumed that that was never intended to provide a
    >> >> substitute for encoding the characters needed for Zhuang text -- it
    >> >> would be a terrible way to represent Zhuang text, though I suppose
    >> >> you can argue (as you have done) that it's valid.
    >> >
    >> > I'm sure that John has never suggested that IDS sequences should be a
    >> > substitute for encoding, merely that given what the Unicode Standard
    >> > currently says, it would be a feasible interim solution.
    >> >
    >> TUS is most emphatic on this point: An IDS is *not* the same thing as
    >> encoding. It should be considered a better-than-nothing stop-gap
    >> until something appropriate comes along (either an encoded character
    >> or a registered variation sequence). I suppose that a text in say
    >> Zhuang could use a custom font to hide the fact that most of it
    >> consists of IDSs, but in such a case Unicode explicitly warns that no
    >> operation other than display-related ones will likely work. Using an
    >> IDS in running text is a hack.
    > Considering the rejected characters, "until" does not seem appropriate.
    > For such IDS is the only option. And not much of an option either
    > since very few environments can actually render it.
    > <U+2FF5 U+9580 U+9F8D> ?

    An interesting first character <U+2FF5 U+9580 U+9F8D>, which an IDS
    parser would not find too difficult. Is this someone's name? This
    character is a good example, in that it is clearly not in the already
    encoded CJKV charcters, there are no unification issues about this.

    BTW the set of characters I was thinking of above have not been submitted yet,


    > T?ky?, Japan
    > <snip>

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