From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Dec 24 2007 - 18:09:16 CST
apologies for snipping in your text.
-On [20071224 23:59], James Kass (email@example.com) wrote:
>So, 彐 (# 58), 長 (#168), 骨 (#188), and 鬼 (#194) could
>be referred to as U+5F50, U+9577, U+9AA8, and U+9B3C,
>Quoting from T.U.S. 5.0 page 426,
>"Semantics. Characters in the CJK and KangXi Radicals blocks should
>never be used as ideographs. They have different properties and meanings.
>U+2F00 KANGXI RADICAL ONE is not equivalent to U+4E00 CJK UNIFIED
>IDEOGRAPH-4E00, for example. The former is to be treated as a symbol,
>the latter as a word or part of a word.
Please note I never referenced the entire CJK block though, only the Kangxi
and supplemental radical blocks.
>But, I've never understood the reasoning behind all the duplications.
>Having just read the pertinent section in the Unicode Standard doesn't
>really help much in understanding. Of course, "KANGXI RADICAL ONE"
>is the ideograph encoded at U+4E00. The fact that some standards have
>chosen to encode that radical separately and assign it properties as
>a symbol doesn't alter that reality. The fact that many dictionaries
>use a different font style to display radicals in indices only means
>that it is a different font style, not that there is any difference
>at the character (plain text) level.
Well, semantically speaking I can understand the duplication into a radical
block to separate the radicals from the complete glyphs.
I just cannot understand duplication within 2 radical blocks of a few glyphs
that seem to have no difference aside from some display difference. I thought
we used variations for that.
But yes, I also understand your point. Quite frankly I was amazed to find the
KS X 1001 standard encoded a bunch of hanja double for no apparent reason that
the reading was the only thing that changed. Which means nothing whatsoever
for normal encoding. I think if Unicode one day ever gets a successor, this is
one of the areas that will require readjusting.
-- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(-at-)in-nomine.org> / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ In every stone sleeps a crystal...
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